Re: Table Format Style vs. Table Text Style
- From: "Klaus Linke" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 00:29:51 +0100
Hi Colin,
I was about to suggest that. If you are in a "Body Text" paragraph when you
insert a table, that style will be applied "on top" in all the table cells
(instead of "Normal").
"Clear Formatting" gets rid of that paragraph style (while [re]applying the
table style does not).
Greetings,
Klaus
"WebColin" <CHigbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> No, now I found a work-around, but this remains weird (at least to me...
> maybe this will be obvious to someone else). If under style I select
> "Clear Formatting" inside the table cell, it then successfully reverts to
> the Table Style. I never tried that when I had Normal defined, but I don't
> think it would have worked based on the style names in use where the
> problem occurs.
>
> This seems to work reliably.
>
> - Colin
>
>
> "WebColin" <CHigbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:%23UkAhb%238FHA.2816@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> You know what, it's worse than that. I experimented and thought I
>> confirmed that the problem with the Normal style and Table style affected
>> both font and size (if either was set in Normal, it overrode any settings
>> for Table style). So, I created a Body Text style and reset Normal back
>> to how it started. However, after that worked for the first table, for
>> subsequent tables, the Table style started copying from Body Text. It's
>> as if the problem with Normal shifted to the Body Text style. So I'm back
>> where I started.
>>
>> - Colin
>>
>>
>> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:OfxsI9Q8FHA.3388@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Since I never use table styles, I'm a bit vague on all this, but perhaps
>>> someone more knowledgeable can answer your question.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Suzanne S. Barnhill
>>> Microsoft MVP (Word)
>>> Words into Type
>>> Fairhope, Alabama USA
>>> Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
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>>> newsgroup so
>>> all may benefit.
>>>
>>> "WebColin" <CHigbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:OwQKqdQ8FHA.3976@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> OK, hmm. That's an annoying bug (I guess they all are).
>>>>
>>>> So, that leads to a few questions:
>>>>
>>>> 1. What features of the Table Style are overridden by changes to the
>>> Normal
>>>> Style? Is it just the font, or is there more? My Normal style
>>>> specifies:
>>>> font, Right margin, and Space After. It also says (but I think these
>>>> are
>>>> standard) Left, Line spacing: single, and Widow/Orphan control.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Is creating a new style (e.g. "Body Text") the best solution?
>>>>
>>>> 3. If I do create a new style (answer is Yes to #2), what should I
>>>> define
>>> in
>>>> Normal versus in that other style? Just the font? Is there a "best
>>>> practices" on this? Something on one of those great MVP pages?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks so much,
>>>> Colin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:eoqsVOQ8FHA.1484@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> > Yes, there is something special about table styles. It's actually a
>>>> > bug
>>>> > and
>>>> > will be corrected in Word 12. If you modify the font of Normal style,
>>> then
>>>> > the table style reverts to the default Normal.dot Normal font (i.e.,
>>>> > TNR
>>>> > 12).
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Suzanne S. Barnhill
>>>> > Microsoft MVP (Word)
>>>> > Words into Type
>>>> > Fairhope, Alabama USA
>>>> > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
>>>> > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
>>> newsgroup
>>>> > so
>>>> > all may benefit.
>>>> >
>>>> > "WebColin" <CHigbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> > news:uY$Z6RP8FHA.3804@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >> Yes, I changed the core font from Times New Roman to our specified
>>> serif
>>>> >> font for this template. But the Table style font should override
>>>> >> that,
>>>> >> shouldn't it? All other styles based on Normal do (e.g., Headings).
>>>> >>
>>>> >> [In fact, while it's not technically important, I'd add that using
>>>> >> the
>>>> >> Normal style for tables is generally bad formatting. A typical table
>>>> > should
>>>> >> be in a sans serifed font, whereas body text should be in a serifed
>>> font
>>>> > (if
>>>> >> you question this, look in any magazine with tables). The only
>>>> >> possible
>>>> >> general purpose exception would be if you were using the table just
>>>> >> to
>>>> >> establish placement for various items, and not really as a
>>>> >> conventional
>>>> >> table.]
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Is there something special about Table Styles? If so, what should I
>>>> >> do?
>>> I
>>>> >> didn't see a solution or work around on the web page you listed. Is
>>>> >> it
>>> to
>>>> >> use a Body Text style instead of Normal for the bulk of the text? If
>>>> > Normal
>>>> >> is unmodified, would the Table Style fonts work? Is there another
>>>> >> way -
>>> I
>>>> >> don't want to have to go through my docs and change my Normal text
>>>> >> to
>>>> >> another style.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Thanks much,
>>>> >> Colin
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "Stefan Blom" <no.spam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> >> news:%23Ep4q0N8FHA.2716@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >> > Did you modify the font of the Normal style? If so, the settings
>>>> >> > will
>>>> >> > transfer to table styles. See the message by Klaus Linke in the
>>> thread
>>>> >> > at:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >
>>> http://groups.google.se/group/microsoft.public.word.formatting.longdocs/browse_frm/thread/acd103744573a63e/010e16d9c49bac81?tvc=1#010e16d9c49bac81
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > If you need more information, try searching the newsgroup archives
>>>> >> > at
>>>> >> > http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > --
>>>> >> > Stefan Blom
>>>> >> > Microsoft Word MVP
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > "WebColin" wrote in message
>>>> >> > news:unTStHK8FHA.2176@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >> >> I have defined a Table format, including setting the text for
>>>> >> >> "Whole
>>>> >> > Table"
>>>> >> >> to a specific font. But the text in the tables of that Style are
>>>> >> > still in
>>>> >> >> the same font as the Normal style. This seems to be true both for
>>>> >> >> preexisting tables and new tables I create with that table style.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Of course I can manually set the font in the table or define
>>>> >> >> another
>>>> >> > text
>>>> >> >> style and apply that to the individual rows of text, but that's
>>>> >> >> not
>>>> >> > supposed
>>>> >> >> to be necessary. Considering the number of tables and the size of
>>>> >> > the
>>>> >> >> document, I really don't want to have manually set the text in
>>>> >> >> each
>>>> >> > table.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Am I missing something?
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Thanks,
>>>> >> >> Colin
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Word 2003, Windows XP all Office and OS SP's installed
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >
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