Re: Grouping pictures in Word 2007
- From: Jay Freedman <jay.freedman@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 19:59:33 -0400
In fact, with methods 2 and 3 as Bob described them, you can have
new-style graphics, grouped, without the Drawing Canvas -- and it
takes exactly three small steps more than the old way.
The first extra step is to insert the Drawing canvas.
Inserting, formatting, and grouping the pictures take the same number
of steps as the old way -- but you can get much better-looking effects
with the new tools, such as bevels and fancy shadows.
The second extra step is to drag the finished group off the Drawing
Canvas, and the third extra step is to delete the Drawing canvas. (I
suppose you might consider repositioning the group to be a fourth
step.)
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On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 06:24:03 -0700, Tinkrtoy
<Tinkrtoy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thanks, both of you! I sure hope a fix will come for this. That's alot of.
steps for a work around, hehe!
"Bob Buckland ?:-)" wrote:
Hi Tink,
As Herb mentioned, getting to the desired results can seem quite convoluted in Word 2007 when compared to older versions. There are
some added and improved features that have, because of the way they're implemented in Word 2007, changed the methods used in prior
versions.
Basically, if an item in Word 2007 has white pearl sizing handles (new graphics object) it usually can't be directly grouped with an
item that
has flat square sizing handles (old/classic graphics engine object) or with other 'white pearl handled' items.
Pictures inserted via Insert=>Picture into the body of a Word document need to have their Text wrapping style set to something other
than 'inline with text' to be able to group them (right click on an inserted graphic to use Text Wrapping settings or double click
the graphic to get to the drawing/picture tools in the ribbon).
In 'old' Word versions (or 'Classic' as MS calls the last version before 2007) the graphics/pictures and shapes from
the MS Drawing Objects engine were managed within Word's capabilities. For Office 2007 there was a new graphic engine created and,
unfortunately for us, it was only partially implemented in Word 2007 (for example Word doesn't have 'new' WordArt, only classic
while Excel and Powerpoint have new WordArt <g>).
Because of that partial implementation, the inserted pictures and SmartArt are managed by the new Office graphics engine, while the
inserted shapes and shape handling is still managed in Word. The basic result is that Word's 'classic' grouping and multiple
object selection tool don't 'see' the inserted pictures to allow you to group them with the shapes. If you select a picture that
you inserted and right click, copy then on the Home tab look at the Paste Special Dropdown the graphic type is
"Microsoft Office Graphics Object", rather than the Word classic
"MS Office Drawing Object".
When you save in 'compatability' mode (.doc) the pictures are reset to 'classic' types, but if you then upvert (save as the new file
formats) the pictures will tend to break away from the grouping.
There are several workarounds (and hopefully one of the folks here who still program <g> will find a macro solution to this as
well). Here are some you may want to consider. The workarounds give the 'new items' the appearance to Word of being 'classic'
objects.
1. Work in 'compatability mode' (i.e. save in Word .doc format). Lets you work as before, but turns off some of the newer features
in Word 2007 (as Herb mentioned)
2. Work within a Word drawing Canvas:
Use Insert=>Shapes=>New Drawing Canvas (at the bottom of the shapes dialog) and Insert all of your items to group into the canvas.
A canvas automatically groups/contains the pictures and shapes within a single frame and within the canvas you can selectively have
subgroups (i.e. graphics are 'equal' within a drawing canvas.) Separately, a canvas can be grouped with drawing items outside of the
canvas.
3. Revert to 'classic' by extracting items from a drawing canvas.
A variation of item 2 allows you to move items out of a drawing canvas back into Word's "regular" area where they can be handled as
Word 'classic' objects, even in .docx files.
While in the drawing canvas created in 2., above, after applying shadows, styles, etc to the items, use the shift key and click on,
for example an inserted picture and a shape, right click and group them.
4. Use a textbox shape to hold the inserted picture.
Use Insert=>Textbox=>Draw a Textbox (bottom of the gallery), then inside the text box use Insert=>Picture or double click the
textbox and use Textbox Tools=>Format=>Shape Fill=>Picture.
(If you use Insert=>Picture you can apply the Word 2007 picture tool effects to the graphic that is in the text box. You can
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<<"Tinkroty" <Tinkroty@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:542591BD-CDC2-4D4C-85D7-87F4791168C5@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Hi all,
I just started using 2007 a couple of weeks ago and I can't understand why I
can no longer group pictures I've inserted like I could in 2003. I see the
option under Format to group, but its grayed out and won't let me select it.
Right clicking the pictures doesn't give a group option either. I'm using
the same pictures and same logos I used in 2003 with Text Wrap set on 'In
Front of Text'.
Help please!!
Thank you!>>
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Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP
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