Re: Drawing Problem in Word 2003

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I am not sure I understand what you are doing...

Insert a .wmf image, (select any wrap but inline) select ungroup, click yes to
the query, the image is now on the canvas, select the canvas, in the draw menu,
select ungroup again... the canvas is gone with only the ungrouped image. You
can re-group the image at this point or edit the image.

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"tedoniman" <tedoniman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Appreciate that, Ken.

I was born confused - and still am. By "Microsoft Drawing", I think I meant
the
title / subject of the post I mentioned and visited earlier somewhere in here.

By "frames", I meant "text wrapping" - like those many options you get for
that in that drawing object Format menu (tight, square, etc.). I don't like
those things. They mess up my page and confuse the living heck out of me.
Can't fit things
where I want when those funny extra gray lines show up all over the place.
Ugly.

As for un-grouping 'text wrapped' drawings and winding up w/ a mess, never
had that problem - 'cause rarely used text wrapping for anything. Horrifies
me.
God help us all! Maybe if I understood it better...

Anyhow, just had the same problem (what a mess! - and non-repairable via
'undo') with the 'canvas' - which itself is a form of 'text wrapping'. I
think I might
have grouped the drawings while in the canvas, then just 'cut' the drawing
and pasted it elsewhere to get rid of the canvas frame. Then, when un-grouped
the pasted drawing, all hell broke loose. Took an hour to get all back into
shape.

Basically it's same problem as you describe - except that in this case
'canvas'
didn't prevent it; it *caused* it. That's because, to my mind, 'canvas' is
nothing but a 'text' or 'object' *frame* or *wrap* or whatever you want to
call
it - and those things are nothing but trouble to me. That's why I'd like to
get
back to the oldie but goodie way of doing things. There should by rights be
such an option.

I wonder if there's some 'understandable' explanation in Word Help somewhere
for why 'canvas' was introduced in the first place, and all that...

--
Ted...


"Ken Johnson" wrote:

Hi Ted,

Before Word 2003 and its drawing canvas, whenever I ungrouped a drawing
that had text wrapping, the wrapping disappeared and I ended up with a
mess of text and ungrouped drawing overlaid. So, I guess using a
drawing canvas would prevent that happening. Generally I don't like the
canvas so I keep it disabled.
I can't comment about Microsoft Drawing, I've never used it, I always
use the autoshapes and freeform builder etc. I don't have much trouble
with these tools, and I don't know where those frames you mention are
coming from.

Ken Johnson




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