Re: Unexpected alignment when using styles for headings 1, 1.1, 1.

The reason to place the insertion point in the first top-level paragraph of
a list (which for heading numbering means the first Heading 1 paragraph of
the document) is that Word might restart the list if you make the
modification with the insertion point elsewhere.

The obvious follow-up question is, "Why does Word restart the lists?" And
the answer is that I don't know, but I suspect that it is some sort of
preparation for creating a new list.

Note that when numbering is associated with paragraph styles, you can easily
fix any unwanted restarts by using Ctrl+Q (which resets paragraph formatting
to that of the underlying style), but for lists that are not using styles
there is no easy way to fix the issue.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Liontamer" <Liontamer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Okay Maestro Stefan:
I just followed these directions you gave:

"To fix the problem, you will have to adjust the settings for indentation
at
the affected numbering level: Place the insertion point in the first
top-level paragraph of the list (in a list of headings, this means in the
first Heading 1 paragraph of the document). Then click Home tab |
Multilevel
List | Define New Multilevel List. In the dialog box, click "Level 2."
Click
the More button to see all options. Change the "Position" settings as
appropriate. In particular, you may want to pay attention to the "Add tab
stop at" option."

When I got to the More Options, I removed <Follow with Tab> and replaced
it
with <Follow with Space>. And it worked !!! Yippie !!!

However, I kindof follow the logic behind returning to the first Heading 1
paragraph. But I'm not too sure "why?" I've got to return there to adjust
the level 2 parameters. I mean, it kind of makes sense, cause it's where
the
multi-level list starts out. But will it be the same if I just returned
to
the first instance of the Heading 1.1 paragraph? And just adjusted the
parameters from there? Which is the first instance at level two of the
list
itselt. Humm. It seems, somewhat logical your way though. If no other
reason, because Heading 1 starts the whole list process. Just wondering
how
you explain this need to return all the way back to the first instance of
Heading 1.

I'm gonna make time to follow the link you provided to Shauna's page.
I'll
get back to you when I'm done. She's pretty cool, isn't she? Well, let's
see what she writes now.


"Stefan Blom" wrote:

"Liontamer" <Liontamer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Stefan, I just wrote an email to Mary Milhollon [ Author (1 of 3) to:
MS
Office Word 2007 Inside Out ] advising her of our discussion and
relating
my
ideas to help her and her associates improve an all ready outstanding
publication. It's my little contribution to everyone. And, hopefully,
it
will help them in updated revisions of their publication.

Also, I did just make an attempt to Remove Frame as you stated in your
post.
It seems to have worked. And I have typed out a couple of more
paragraphs
in my document, just to test what happens. And it seems that the lion
is
somewhat satiated for now. However, there's still a lack of an
understanding
to how this situation came to be in the first place? I want to
understand
more about this just in case it happens again. Cause if it does, then
I'll
just have to make a steak medium rare for my lion. And you know how I
love
lions. Gotta keep 'em happy.


Well, it's difficult to tell how it happened. Some settings can be
automatically included with a style if you select the "Automatically
update"
option in the Modify Style dialog box, but I doubt that frame formatting
belongs to that category. Updating a style to match the selection with
the
insertion point inside a frame is a more likely cause.

So, I'll await further information regarding this situation.

Oh yes, I've got another issue: How come it's so hard to control where
the
text starts on the line for Heading Style 1.1? I mean, the section
number
appears like: 6.4 But the text starts about an inch
or
so
in from the section number.

By default, Word inserts a tab character after the number and, depending
on
the width of the number, this might push the text to the next default tab
stop, which might be less desirable.

To fix the problem, you will have to adjust the settings for indentation
at
the affected numbering level: Place the insertion point in the first
top-level paragraph of the list (in a list of headings, this means in the
first Heading 1 paragraph of the document). Then click Home tab |
Multilevel
List | Define New Multilevel List. In the dialog box, click "Level 2."
Click
the More button to see all options. Change the "Position" settings as
appropriate. In particular, you may want to pay attention to the "Add tab
stop at" option. For more, see
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/numbering/OutlineNumbering.html.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP






Kind of like the line above this one.
So, what's causing this? How can I modify the text line to start
closer
to
the section number in the built in Heading Style 1.1? This is so
confusing.
Believe me, I've tried stuff. But my lion won't listen. Doesn't jump
through the big hoop. What to do? I donno! I fed the lion a good
dinner,
and he just looks at me with those big lion eyes and roars! Gosh, it's
scarey sometimes. I know my lion luvs me. He's just giving me a hard
time.

It's been a long day for me. Be well everybody. I've got to rest now.

"Stefan Blom" wrote:

Another possibility is that you have inadvertently saved frame
formatting
to
your Heading 2 style.

To remove such formatting: In the Styles pane (Ctrl+Shift+Alt+S),
right-click the Heading 2 entry and choose Modify from the context
menu.
In
the Modify Style dialog box, click the Format button, and then click
Frame.
Click Remove Frame, and then click OK to close the Modify Style dialog
box
again.

~~~
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Stefan Blom" <no.spam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Since you are seeing an anchor, could you be typing in a text box?

~~~
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Liontamer" <Liontamer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hello All
My OS = Windows XP Professional Media Center Ed, SP2
Question = MS Word 2007
What I am experiencing: I am trying to use the styles for lists.
The
headings I'm using are 1, then 1.1, then 1.1.1, then sometimes
1.1.1.1
Okay,
now I've started creating my document, and it was going quite well
for
a
couple of pages. (Yippie!) But then the mean ol "gremlin" came
out.
Here's
what happened. When I hit the enter button at the end of a Heading
1.1.1
paragraph, the cursor ends the paragraph and goes to the next line.
(This
is
not the problem yet.) Now, I press the Heading 2 Style for 1.1 and
I
get
my
next section of my document (in my current document it's 6.3).
However,
the
6.3 is surrounded by a box. So, I proceed to type the line for
that
section
6.3. It types out correctly. Then I hit enter. And the cursor
does
something unexpected. It raises up slightly above the line in a
"superscript
position" just slightly above the line itself. (I am now
confused.)
Because
what should have happened is the cursor needed to go to the next
line
below
where I just got done typing. (Now wait the problem gets better!)

(Okay, me being me, I try endlessly to tame the Lion. I try to
make a
nice
juicy steak. No luck.) But in actuality here's what I did next.
I
hit
the
enter key again. And the cursor drops down one line, but it stays
at
the
same location. In other words, it's still at the end of the line
just
above.
(utt-o Did I do something wrong? I don't think so.) (So, I
continue
my
quest to tame this beast.)

I right click the line just above (that's my 6.3 line) and I click
the
paragraph symbol to see the paragraph marks. I'm hoping to get
some
clues
as
to what's going on in my document. (I wanna tame that beast!) And
now I
encounter a symbol looking like an anchor. The anchor symbol hangs
to
the
right of the box surrounding the line 6.3, just off the paragraph
symbol
too.
(Why this is so, I don't know.)

So, I do some comparisons between my lines 6.2 and 6.3. And what
do I
discover? The little anchor symbol is in different spots on both
my
lines.
(Ah Ha!)

On line 6.2, the anchor symbol is just left and below the line
number
6.2
itself. It actually appears below the box surrounding line 6.2 and
at
the
same level as line 6.2.1. (That's not where the anchor is for my
line
6.3)
So, this must be why I'm having this problem. I just don't know
what
to
do
about it.

I've currently read some of Shauna Kelly's (MVP) pages for Word
2002
and
2003, but that's not up to date for 2007. However, her pages have
most
definitely helped me understand and clarify some basic stuff about
Word.
She's really terrific. Visit her site for some background on prior
verisions
of Word.

Well, I know my problem has something to do with where this anchor
symbol
appears on my line 6.3. It may have something to do with formating.
I
just
haven't learnt enough yet about how this all works yet. (So much
to
read.
My head hurts.)

So, if any of you people understand this and can help then I'd
really
appreciate it. There's just got to be a way to control what's
happening
here
in my document. And I'd like to know how it got that way too. I
just
don't
understand it. I was doing the same thing I did in prior parts of
my
document.

Have a nice day to all of you.

















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