Re: Opening a PDF file in Word as a Template (background)
- From: Melissa <Melissa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 09:06:02 -0700
"Graham Mayor" wrote:
Converting printed forms (including PDF) to Word editable forms is always
going to be a pain and far too much effort for a one-off. One easy way that
you might like to consider is the forms filling module of some versions of
ABBYY Finereader OCR software. Print the PDF, scan it into the Forms module
and add the fields. This is quicker and cheaper than buying Acrobat for the
job and makes one-off's more practical.
I dont know how much the price is for a full version of Adobe Acrobat.
Anyhow, the price for a full version of Adobe Acrobat is not justified as I
only need to fill-in PDF-forms a few times per year.
Note that some forms are intended to be filled by hand for the purpose of
handwriting analysis and will be rejected if filled on a PC. Check the
instructions first.
I know the restrictions for filling in (PDF) forms by computer.
Bost of the publishers of these forms dont care about the form filled in by
computer or typewriter.
But 99% of them require an original handwritten signature.
Thanks for your response on the subject,
Melissa
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Melissa wrote:
"Daiya Mitchell" wrote:
Hi Melissa,
Ho Daya
I was actually responding to George, who did want to spellcheck--your
message seemed old enough to have fallen off the servers. Did you
never get an answer?
No, all the answers (except yours) were about George and his
spellcheck.
I assume you are planning to print the PDF with your filled in
answers, not submit it electronically?
Exactly,
1. Load the "original" PDF file as a Template,
2. Fill in the required fields with MS Word,
3. Print the document and sign it.
You can use Insert | Picture from File and navigate to the PDF file
to insert it. This should get you the first page of the PDF file in
a Word doc. You'll need to set the image to Behind Text (use Format
| Picture). Then you'll have to mess around with spacing a lot to
get the text in the right place.
That's the way I do it now.
Load the document into MS Word as a Header and set the image to
"Behind Text". Then it is whole of changing spaces, paragraph
settings and Letter Kerning
to fit the text as much as possible into the required field.
Unfortunately, Word will only let you insert an object of 1 page.
So you would need to Insert each page separately, to get the entire
8 page document. I think you should be able to search the web for a
utility that would break the PDF file into separate files for each
page.
I load the PDF file into Adobe Acrobat and open MS Word.
Then I cut each page individualy from Acrobat and paste into MS Word.
But for larger documents, this is a (excuse the words) "pain in the
ass".
This is obviously a big old hassle. On my Mac, I've got a lovely
little app (Formulate) that lets you overlay type on PDFs for
printing out forms (even if it wasn't created as fillable).
"Formulate" could be the right stuff for what I need.
I remember to have somewhere an utitlty that permits me to emulate
Mac OS Version 7 on my PC (will try to find it on my 300 GB external
harddisk).
If that utilty works, I can try to get a copy of "Formulate".
You might search the web for a windows
equivalent. You could start with these programs:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PDF_software
There seem to be options but I have no familiarity with them to
recommend anything.
You have been already a BIG help, Daiya.
Thanks a lot.
Alternatively, search the web for websites of tips for people who
have difficulty handwriting. I can't imagine there aren't some out
there, and they may have a recommended product for this.
I cannot believe that Microsoft nor Adobe have included in their
Wordprocessing package a help for loading PDF files as a template.
Microsoft has been a great help for the disabled people with their
Windows (Accesibility), but seems to let the disabled people down in
their Wordprocessor.
Adobe has become the "standard" in Print Image Software (PDF) but has
completely left the people who wants to fill in documents by a
computer in the cold.
If someone of the big guys of MS Word or Adobe is reading this, why
can't
you guys make something like "Formulate" for the PC?
(JoAnn, do you know of anything?)
Who is JoAnn?
Thanks a lot Daiya,
Melissa
Daiya
On 8/31/06 10:01 AM, "Melissa" wrote:
"Daiya Mitchell" wrote:
PDF files are more or less a type of image, so in Word, they will
just be solid images, not text that you can edit, spellcheck, etc.
I know, and I don't want to edit the PDF file.
Some PDFs will let you copy and paste text into Word okay--you
could try doing that page by page.
That's just what I want to avoid.
I would like to load the "complete" PDF file, and use it as a
Template, Watermark or whatever so that I can fill in the fileds in
Word.
You could look for OCR software that would recognize the pictures
of the letters and convert them into editable text.
The document has to be the "original" PDF file.
OCR or editing is out of the question.
You could ask the person who provided the document for a Word file
or some other editable format instead of PDF.
Some instances have on their website a PDF file and a Word file.
But most instances will publish a PDF file to printout and fill the
fileds by hand.
What I'm confronted with is the following, I had a stroke a few
years ago and cannot fill in a document by hand anymore.
A few lines, ok. But then it starts to become unreadable.
On the otherhand, I can write very good on a computer or a
typewriter.
It's very easy for me to fill in a document in MS Word and print it
out. But when the documents are PDF files, I have to load the pages
one by one instead loading the whole document in Word as a
Template/Watermark.
I'm looking for an easier way to load these PDF files in a
wordprocessor and fill in the fileds.
TIA
Melissa
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