Re: Msg: Do you ALSO want to save changes to the document template

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Yow.  Scary stuff.  Thanks for this info.

Given the mess, and unless we see a 7.5 that fixes this stuff, I think we'll wait for 8.0, so I won't mobilize Graham. What a joke Adobe has become -- every Acrobat version is more audacious and less convenient....

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Mark Tangard
"Life is nothing if you're not obsessed." --John Waters


Jay Freedman wrote: 
Hi Mark,

Graham Mayor has the following on his page at
http://www.gmayor.com/lose_that_adobe_acrobat_toolbar.htm regarding
Acrobat 7's add-in:
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To prevent the add-in from loading, edit the Windows registry. Locate
the key
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Office\Word\Addins\PDFMaker.OfficeAddin]
and change the subkey called "LoadBehavior" from a value of 3 to 0.
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Since I don't personally use Acrobat, I can't help any further, but
you can probably get Graham interested in pursuing it. Good luck in
isolating the problem!

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On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 20:48:04 -0800, Mark Tangard
<Mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


First, PLEASE understand that (a) this *isn't* about the general message asking to save changes to Normal.dot, but rather, it's about being asked to save inexplicable "changes" to OTHER templates when saving documents based thereon; and (b) this message appears even when NO changes to styles, customizations, or other standard save-prompt-inducers have been done. The message is distinguished by the word ALSO, which does not appear in the more common template-related messages.

I spent a long while Googling this issue & found many other users perplexed/annoyed by it. I only just started getting it this week and have these 2 observations:

First, I thought of what might have changed to cause this. We'd done no Word upgrades for months, and the entire firm is standardized on Word 2003 SP1. And while I use several of my own Word VBA add-ins, none had changed in many weeks. BUT, I had just installed the free trial of Adobe Acrobat 7.0. Naturally I suspected it was involved, so I went to unload it, in the usual way of narrowing down the source of such a problem.

Well, big surprise: Unlike prior Acrobat versions which use a .DOT file (PDFMaker.dot), Version 7 uses a .DLL, and it doesn't live in the Word Startup folder. How do you unload a .DLL? How do you even find it? (There seem to be at least 4 likely culprits.) I realize I could *uninstall* instead, but given that this is Adobe's free trial, I'm apprehensive about what fresh troubles a mid-trial uninstall might create. (Except for this issue, we like Acrobat 7.)

Second: On the presumably small chance it might be one of the other add-ins interacting with Adobe's, I uninstalled them all intending to add them back in one by one. But before starting to add them back in, I went to reproduce the message (maybe, like, to be sure I wasn't dreaming...?). So this was with Adobe's being the only active add-in.

The message didn't appear! I tried several times, exiting Word, rebooting, etc. (We're talking 8 or 10 attempts.). All the file for which I'd seen this message earlier on each dirty-doc save, now saved without any message appearing!

Argh. So I reloaded my add-ins one by one, testing carefully each time. The message *never* reappeared.

.....until about 2 hours later! In the interim I had done *nothing* but simple raw typing or pasting from OCR output. I'm sure I hadn't used even a single macro or tweaked even one style. I had closed and reopened Word a few times, but that's about it. The message had returned for any file based on a template other than Normal.

What's going on?!?!

I badly need both Acrobat 7 and my own add-ins to work smoothly and in the same Word instance, and I'm just about ready to PAY if someone helps with a lasting solution. (Some who recognize me as a former MVP will know I'm good for it.) I've posted on the Adobe newsgroups, but as you may know, the vast majority of posters there are those pleading for help, not offering it.

If this had happened with prior Acrobats I might've managed by keeping Adobe's add-in unloaded until needed. I'd be fine with that now if I could figure out a simple way to unload and reload it.

Thanks to anyone who has read this far.


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Mark Tangard
"Life is nothing if you're not obsessed." --John Waters

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