Re: Line Spacing Question

From: Suzanne S. Barnhill (sbarnhill_at_mvps.org)
Date: 01/24/05 

Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:23:30 -0600

The default line spacing of Times New Roman is 120%. This means that the
line spacing (or "leading") of 10-pt TNR is 12 points. For 12-pt TNR, it
would be 14.4 points. The built-in leading varies with the font, however,
which is why you get different leading when you mix fonts. Using "Exactly"
line spacing is the best solution if you're mixing fonts. 

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
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"Peyton Todd" <PeytonTodd@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A0ED850E-D5E7-4C63-ACD2-3DA32686C9D9@microsoft.com...
> Thanks, Suzanne, but I had already tried the Arial Unicode MS font. Yes,
it
> seems to have the characters I need, but whenever I insert--> symbol one
of
> them into the page, it adds a space after it, which looks dumb. Except
that
> apparently it's not a space in the sense of an extra character since, if
you
> backspace over it (a single keystroke), the character itself goes away
along
> with the space. So it seems the character itself containg whitespace to
its
> right.
>
> What I had been using to get around that problem - part of the complicated
> solution involving the Tavulsoft 'keyboard' I described earlier - turns
out
> to be Lucida Sans Unicode. Experimenting Jezebel's solution of specifying
the
> line spacing exactly, I was surprised that it seems to work! It's perhaps
not
> exactly Jezebel's solution, which, as I read it, seemed to suggest making
the
> line spacing big enough to accomodate the larger size of the symbols (even
> though their stated pointsize was the same). Because I can REDUCE the line
> spacing so it looks right!
>
> I know very little about fonts. I was thinking of each character as a
single
> bloc, like the hunks of metal I remember from print shop in high school
> (Atlanta, Georgia, 1955). So I assumed it was just a certain size and
that's
> it, which is why the line spacing got bigger when I added the character.
But
> I find it lets me take it down further after all. Which suggests each font
> must have a default area around each character.
>
> But maybe that's not true, either, since Word lets me cut down the line
> spacing down to where the characters on successive lines actually overlap
> each other. Right now I have it down to 9pt., and the font itself is only
11
> pt.
>
> So now my only problem is that the Lucida Sans Unicode font looks like
> boldface, which I wish it did not.
>
> Also, I'm curious: What is the default line spacing of a Word document. I
> believe that's what I had. When I take just any paragraph and go to Format
> --> Paragraph Spacing --> Line spacing --> Exactly, it defaults to 12 pt.
But
> to my eye, 12 pts look slightly smaller than my paragraphs.
>
> Peyton
>
> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
>
> > To add to what the others have said, I would suggest that you first look
at
> > the Latin Extended A and B and IPA Extensions character subsets of Times
New
> > Roman in Insert | Symbol. There are, as Pat has pointed out, built-in
> > keyboard shortcuts for many of these characters, and you can assign your
own
> > for any character. If these are not sufficient to your needs, then look
at
> > the Arial Unicode MS font (it comes with Windows but may not be
installed).
> > I think you'll find its IPA Extensions include everything you could
possibly
> > need. There is no reason you couldn't type your entire document in this
> > font, which your publisher is also bound to have.
> >
> > -- 
> > Suzanne S. Barnhill
> > Microsoft MVP (Word)
> > Words into Type
> > Fairhope, Alabama USA
> > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
> > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
> > all may benefit.
> >
> > "Peyton Todd" <PeytonTodd@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:93AFA0BA-5252-4FBF-84E5-C8E306E73916@microsoft.com...
> > > Hello. I expect this will be a tough question to answer.
> > >
> > > A little detail first, then I'll get to my question...
> > >
> > > I am writing a book in linguistics, and I don't have a publisher yet,
but
> > > most tings written in the field tend to be in a font which looks like
> > Times
> > > New Roman. And I believe lots of publishers nowadays just photocopy
what
> > you
> > > send. So I'm writing the book in Times New Roman.
> > >
> > > But I need to include a lot of examples of speech using the
International
> > > Phonetic Alphabet. The fonts which come with Word don't have anywhere
near
> > > the full set of symbols necessary, but I have found and installed a
font
> > > which has everything I need. It's a complicated system involving a
program
> > > called KeyMan by Tavelsoft Corp, and virtual 'keyboards', including
one
> > with
> > > IPA symbols in Unicode. (Colleagues have reported getting drafts
rejected
> > by
> > > publishers who didn't have the same plug-in they were using when they
> > wrote
> > > their book or article.)
> > >
> > > Well, the symbols look great, and they're easy to use (different
> > > combinations of keystrokes lead to the desired characters, like typing
> > Ctrl +
> > > ~ and then 'n' to get an n with a tilde over it in Spanish, but a lot
> > moreso.
> > >
> > > But here's my problem. When I stuff some symbols into a line, say as
> > follows:
> > >
> > > asdf asdf asdf asdf xxxx adf asdf asdf afdf
> > >
> > > where xxxx is the symbols, the line spacing between that line and the
one
> > > before it widens. So all the other lines in the paragraph look fine,
both
> > the
> > > lines before the one I put the symbols in, and the ones below that
line,
> > but
> > > the paragraph looks funny. I can nearly fix this by reducing the
fontsize
> > of
> > > the symbols by a couple of points (e.g. the Times New Roman in 11 pt.
and
> > the
> > > symbols in 9 pt.), but now the symbols look small and silly.
> > >
> > > By the way, the symbols are an Arial font. But that's apparently not
the
> > > problem. I find it's possible to mix Arial and Times New Roman fonts
on a
> > > line without this problem occurring as long as they're all regular
> > characters.
> > >
> > > Any ideas?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > everything ihaven't checked with the publisher yet, a linguist, and I
need
> > > to write articles
> > > -- 
> > > Peyton Todd
> >
> >

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