Re: Margins & Headers

From: Suzanne S. Barnhill (sbarnhill_at_mvps.org)
Date: 01/18/05


Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:43:04 -0600

A text box is really not necessary and just adds to document complexity.
Space Before/After is all that is required (whether you have a letterhead in
the header or just an empty paragraph).

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
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"Charles Kenyon" <msnewsgroup@remove.no.spam.addbalance.com> wrote in
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> Use a Textbox in your first page header to mimic having different margins.
> See Letterhead Textboxes and Styles tutorial
>
http://addbalance.com/word/download.htm#LetterheadTextboxesAndStylesTutorial
>
> You may also want to take a look at: How to set up letterhead or some
other
> document where you want one header on the first page and a different
header
> on other pages. http://www.addbalance.com/word/headersfooters.htm This
gives
> step-by-step instructions. (It also has the following links)
>
> Some other pages to look at:
>
> Letterhead Tips and Instructions
>  http://home.earthlink.net/~wordfaqs/Letterhead.htm
>
> Template Basics
>  http://www.addbalance.com/usersguide/templates.htm
>
> How to Create a Template - Part 2 - essential reading
> http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Customization/CreateATemplatePart2.htm
>
> Word "Forms"
>  http://www.addbalance.com/word/wordwebresources.htm#Forms and
>
> Word for Word Perfect Users
>  http://www.addbalance.com/word/wordperfect.htm if you are coming from a
WP
> environment (or even if you are not).
>
> If you are interested in creating templates that will work with the letter
> wizard or use that wizard, you should look at the chapter on Advanced
> Document Formatting in Using Office 2003 (or whatever your version is),
> Special Edition, by Ed Bott and Woody Leonhard. It has detailed
instructions
> including instructions on getting the fields you want from your Outlook
> Contacts for addressing a letter. (Chapter 19 of SE Using Office 2003) You
> should be able to get this through your public library or at Amazon.com
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0789729555/balancecheckbookA/
>
> Finally, take a look at the letter templates that come with Word. While
they
> are no great shakes as letterhead, they do use styles and AutoText lists
> very well. If you use the same style names that are used in those
templates
> in your own letterhead for the same parts of the document, you will have
> better luck with using the built-in AutoText entries in Word.
>
> Hope this helps,
> -- 
>
> Charles Kenyon
>
> Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word
>
> Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
> Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide
>
> See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome!
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>
> "Sherry" <sakins@floydobe.net> wrote in message
> news:155a01c4fd8f$761f7420$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> > Ok, here goes again. I have a one-page document that has
> > a header. If the page extends into a 2nd or 3rd page, I
> > do not want a header on subsequent pages.  The 1st page
> > top margin needs to be set at 2.25, while subsequent
> > pages (if they appear) need a top margin of 1.25. It
> > seems I can solve these two problems, but not at the same
> > time. I can elect for a different first page header by
> > going to Page Setup-->Layout-->Different First Page
> > Header.  That does not solve the problem of a different
> > top margin. That I tried to solve by putting in a section
> > break immediately after the header on the first page.
> > That will work to a degree in that I can then make the
> > 2nd and subsequent pages have a different top margin.
> > However, placement of the section break means that when a
> > user opens the document and begins to type, the insertion
> > point comes BEFORE the hidden section break, thereby
> > moving the section break down the page as typing
> > commences, and therefore formatting the 2nd page same as
> > the first.
> >
> > I have been told many numerous remedies, mostly to either
> > insert a paragraph on the first page for the extra space,
> > or to use a text box. Neither case is sufficient for what
> > my users need. They need for the insertion point to be at
> > the EXACT location that they need to begin typing without
> > changing any of the formatting.  Surely as powerful an
> > application as Word is, there must be a way to handle
> > something this simple.
> >
> > This document is actually a letterhead that I have
> > created with my logo, etc within the Header of the first
> > page.  If I do not place the logo in the Header and place
> > it in the document as an object instead, the insertion
> > point comes before the object, making everything move
> > down.  My users are not computer literate and would not
> > know how to change a header, or how to move their
> > insertion point.
> >
> > The biggest test comes from a user who is several steps
> > above me on the chain of command, so I must satisfy his
> > desires on this letterhead at all costs..lol....He
> > creates his document as a plain document, then cuts and
> > pastes it onto the letterhead.  I know this is crazy and
> > useless, but try to tell him that.  Anyway, with the logo
> > as an object, the cut and paste moves the object down the
> > page and the text he pastes sort of goes into the middle
> > of the object.
> >
> > Other users simply open the template and begin typing but
> > again, the insertion point moves the section break.
> >
> > Help!!! Pulling my hair out over this one!  Please feel
> > free to email me if you can offer any further suggestions!
>
>


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    ... See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! ... > Space Before/After is all that is required (whether you have a letterhead ... > the header or just an empty paragraph). ... >>> top margin needs to be set at 2.25, ...
    (microsoft.public.word.docmanagement)
  • Re: Margins & Headers
    ... Use a Textbox in your first page header to mimic having different margins. ... You may also want to take a look at: How to set up letterhead or some other ... > pages need a top margin of 1.25. ... They need for the insertion point to be at ...
    (microsoft.public.word.docmanagement)

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