Re: How does the "auto" setting work in Paragraph Spacing?
From: Suzanne S. Barnhill (sbarnhill_at_mvps.org)
Date: 10/11/04
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Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 22:38:52 -0500
As I understand it here is how it works:
For the example, let us posit three styles: Body Text, Heading 1, and Block
Text, formatted as follows:
1. Body Text: 6 pts Space After
2. Heading 1: 18 pts Space Before and 3 pts Space After
3. Block Text: (Left and Right Indents and) 3 pts Space Before and 3 pts
Space After
[Don't worry about whether this spacing actually makes sense!]
You have these paragraphs in the following order:
Body Text
HEADING 1
Body Text
Block Text
Block Text
Block Text
Body Text
1. If you have HTML auto spacing enabled:
a. You will have 18 pts Space Before Heading 1, but the 6 pts After the
Body Text style will be suppressed, for a total of 18 pts.
b. The 3 pts Before the first Block Text paragraph will be subsumed in
the 6 pts after Body Text, for a total of 6 pts.
c. Presumably the space between the Block Text paragraphs will be 3 pts
(one canceling the other).
d. The final Body Text paragraph will be unaffected (unless it is
followed by a heading style or some other with Space Before exceeding its
Space After).
2. If you check the box for "Don't add space between paragraphs of the same
style" for the Block Text style, everything above will be true except that
there will be *no* space between the Block Text paragraphs, just before and
after the group of three paragraphs.
I haven't tested any of this, but this is the behavior I would expect based
on the descriptions I've read (and the way it seems to work in Web pages).
The annoying thing is that the "Don't add space" option is available only if
you have the auto spacing enabled, but I could probably still manage to work
with that. I just need to practice!
-- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Beth Melton" <bmelton@NoSpam4Memvps.org> wrote in message news:ucGH%237yrEHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > Hmmm...I quickly scanned the article earlier but now after I read it > closer I think the KB article is wrong. I think it's referring to the > option you've described, "Don't add space between paragraphs of the > same style" which will only add space before the first paragraph in > the group and after the last paragraph in the group.(btw, the only > time I see it disabled is when 0 pts Before and After is used) > > I think an option is still missing, though. A lot of users want is the > ability to define space before a group of paragraphs, space between > the group, and space after. The "Don't add..." option will suppress > all space. It's still a handy option to have but it could stand to be > expanded. > > Anyway, I just don't see how HTML spacing option has anything to with > space before or after a group of paragraphs. If it is turned on and > "Auto" space is used it will add 5 pts of space between paragraphs > that use "Auto" space or use both values of Before/After between > paragraphs instead of using the larger of the two. > -- > Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for > assistance by email can not be acknowledged. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Beth Melton > Microsoft Office MVP > > Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word > TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/ > MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/ > > > "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message > news:%23EmAU%23urEHA.592@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... > > No, I find that I'm more confused after reading the article than > > before. The > > article focuses on how you can effectively set Space Before/After > > for a > > group of paragraphs of the same style. The spacing can be suppressed > > between > > paragraphs in the same style (but only by checking a box that is > > unavailable > > if auto spacing is disabled). If I could get my head around this, I > > think it > > would be a vast improvement and make it unnecessary to use so many > > different > > styles, but I've never taken the time to play with it and figure out > > how it > > works, so I'm still stumbling along with Block Text Begin, Block > > Text, and > > Block Text End, for example. > > > > And combining the Space Before/After where different styles meet > > would also > > be a big help; I've just been working on a document where Heading 2 > > normally > > follows Body Text. Since Body Text has 6 pts Space After, Heading 2 > > needs > > only 12 or 18 pts Space Before, but if it follows a table (where the > > Table > > Text style has only 3 pts Space After, then the spacing is > > different. I > > really need to work with this feature! > > > > -- > > Suzanne S. Barnhill > > Microsoft MVP (Word) > > Words into Type > > Fairhope, Alabama USA > > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org > > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the > > newsgroup so > > all may benefit. > > > > "Beth Melton" <bmelton@NoSpam4Memvps.org> wrote in message > > news:ePAzK7trEHA.3288@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > >> It doesn't look like the article really covers how both the "Auto" > >> space option and HML Compatibility option work. > >> > >> If you have Auto space set for Paragraph Spacing Before/After, when > >> you turn on the Tools/Options/Compatibility/Don't use HTML > >> paragraph > >> auto spacing option on, Word adjusts Paragraph Spacing Before/After > >> to > >> 5 pt. > >> > >> If you aren't using Auto space for paragraphs: > >> > >> With the HTML Compatibility option turned off (default setting): > >> Word > >> sets the spacing between paragraphs to the larger of Spacing > >> Before/After. > >> > >> If you have the HTML Compatibility option turned on: Word uses both > >> values of Spacing Before/After between paragraphs which is the > >> functionality of versions of Word prior to Word 2000. > >> -- > >> Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for > >> assistance by email can not be acknowledged. > >> > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> Beth Melton > >> Microsoft Office MVP > >> > >> Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word > >> TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/ > >> MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/ > >> > >> > >> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message > >> news:eSlHewVrEHA.2596@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > >> > This is one of the features introduced in Word to emulate HTML. I > >> > believe it > >> > suppresses the smaller of the Space After of one paragraph and > >> > the > >> > Space > >> > Before of the following paragraph to result in uniform spacing. > >> > For > >> > more, > >> > see "WD2000: How to Use the HTML Paragraph Auto Spacing" at > >> > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=207893 > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Suzanne S. Barnhill > >> > Microsoft MVP (Word) > >> > Words into Type > >> > Fairhope, Alabama USA > >> > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org > >> > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the > >> > newsgroup so > >> > all may benefit. > >> > > >> > "Joey" <Joey@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> > news:73CF319E-507D-49BA-9D6C-80CCE2BD791B@microsoft.com... > >> >> How does the value "auto" work in Paragraph Spacing's "Before" > >> >> and > >> >> "After" > >> >> fields? I've searched Word's Help files but there's nothing > >> >> about > >> >> how this > >> >> value works. > >> > > >> > >> > > > >
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