Re: Styles won't change - solved

From: Suzanne S. Barnhill (sbarnhill_at_mvps.org)
Date: 03/08/04 

Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 18:14:56 -0600

How very bizarre! Thanks for coming back to share the answer with us (and
Hans)! 

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
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"Bengt Carlsson" <bengtc@algonet.se> wrote in message
news:lGJ2c.51608$mU6.210807@newsb.telia.net...
> I manage to solve the problem. A week ago I was working on translation
> project in Trados. Trados complained about ; as list separator, so I
> change it to <space>. Although I did not realise the connection then,
> the space made Word think that Heading was one format and 1 (2,3) was
> another. So when I tried to change the Heading format it said, quite
> logical, that the name was occupied.
>
> Changing back to default (;) solve the problem. So be careful not to use
> <space> as list separator.
>
> Thanks for your help and interest anyhow.
>
> Regards / Bengt
>
> Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
>
> >Since both you and Hans are having this problem in the Swedish version of
> >Word, it seems to be a localized issue. I would imagine opening a support
> >incident with MS might be the best way to get the proper attention to
this
> >problem (and possibly a hotfix).
> >
> >--
> >Suzanne S. Barnhill
> >Microsoft MVP (Word)
> >Words into Type
> >Fairhope, Alabama USA
> >Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.word.mvps.org
> >Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
> >all may benefit.
> >
> >"Bengt Carlsson" <bengtc@algonet.se> wrote in message
> >news:40499805.C43C45D5@algonet.se...
> >
> >
> >>Word version:  Word 2002 (10.5815.4219) SP-2, Swedish
> >>OS: Win XP Pro sp2.030422-1633, Swedish
> >>
> >>It happens to Heading 1,2 and 3, and probably all the heading styles.
> >>And moreover, when I try to apply for example Heading 2 it goes back to
> >>
> >>
> >the
> >
> >
> >>style for Heading 1 (Arial 16pt, Bold, Centered).
> >>
> >>I have tried "Idenity and repair", and a complete reinstall of Office
XP.
> >>
> >>Earlier everything was OK with Word, but after a computer crash I had to
> >>reinstall both OS and Office. Since then I have had these problem.
> >>
> >>As long as I edit my own documents, I can solve the problem by not using
> >>
> >>
> >the
> >
> >
> >>built-in styles, but I often edit other people's docs and they use the
> >>built-ins.
> >>
> >>It could be a problem in some of the latest localized security-patches,
so
> >>
> >>
> >I
> >
> >
> >>will try to uninstall and reinstall without updates and patches.
> >>
> >>/Bengt
> >>
> >>Charles Kenyon wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Which version of Word (number and language)?
> >>>
> >>>Which style does this happen with?
> >>>
> >>>What operating system?
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>>
> >>>Charles Kenyon
> >>>
> >>>See the MVP FAQ: <URL: http://www.mvps.org/word/> which is awesome!
> >>> --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------
> >>>This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies
> >>>and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn
> >>>from my ignorance and your wisdom.
> >>>
> >>>"Bengt Carlsson" <bengtc@algonet.se> wrote in message
> >>>news:4048E743.D5450E30@algonet.se...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I wish you were right. I have the same problem as Hans. When
> >>>>I try to modify a built-in style, Word react as if I was
> >>>>creating a new style with the same name. "Style name is
> >>>>occupied". I have checked the Rights and Security tab on
> >>>>Normal.dot properties, but everything seems to be alright.
> >>>>
> >>>>If I create a new style with its own name, it behaves
> >>>>normal. Obviously there is something wrong in my Word 2002
> >>>>and/or OS (Win Xp pro), but where? Both my the OS and Word
> >>>>is patched with the latest.
> >>>>
> >>>>Any ideas? My guess is that there something wrong in
> >>>>priviligies, but I am administrator so I can figure out
> >>>>what.
> >>>>
> >>>>regards / Bengt
> >>>>
> >>>>Charles Kenyon wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>The only way you get a message that the style is already occupied is
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>when
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>you try to give a new style the same name as the built-in style or
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>modify
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>the name of an existing style to be the same as that of a built-in
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>style.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>You can't copy over the built-in heading styles (or at least the top
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>ones).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>The English message is "This style name already exists or is
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >reserved
> >
> >
> >>>for a
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>built-in style."
> >>>>>
> >>>>>If you select the built-in Heading 1 style and click on the modify
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>button,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>you can modify it.
> >>>>>--
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Charles Kenyon
> >>>>>
> >>>>>See the MVP FAQ: <URL: http://www.mvps.org/word/> which is awesome!
> >>>>> --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------
> >>>>>This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies
> >>>>>and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn
> >>>>>from my ignorance and your wisdom.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>"Hans Näslund" <hans.naslund@spray.se> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:h4X1c.85061$dP1.237327@newsc.telia.net...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>NO!!!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>My problem is that I CANNOT modify some of the built-in styles
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>(notably
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>headings). As I explained before, when I try to do that I get the
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>error
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>message that the style is already occupied, and as a consequence,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >no
> >
> >
> >>>>>change
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>is possible.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>(I am using Swedish versions of Windows and Office, so I'm trying
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >to
> >
> >
> >>>>>>translate the terms back into English.)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Hans
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>"Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> skrev i meddelandet
> >>>>>>news:%23GTUqYnAEHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>To clarify what Charles is saying: you can modify a built-in
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >style
> >
> >
> >>>(see
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/styles/ModifyAStyle.html), but
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >you
> >
> >
> >>>can't
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>create a new style and save it with the name of a built-in
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >style.
> >
> >
> >>>>>>>--
> >>>>>>>Suzanne S. Barnhill
> >>>>>>>Microsoft MVP (Word)
> >>>>>>>Words into Type
> >>>>>>>Fairhope, Alabama USA
> >>>>>>>Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.word.mvps.org
> >>>>>>>Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>newsgroup
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>so
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>all may benefit.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>"Charles Kenyon" <msnewsgroup@remove.no.spam.addbalance.com>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >wrote
> >
> >
> >>>in
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>message news:eIiAYXjAEHA.392@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>You can modify these styles but you can't delete them. You
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >can't
> >
> >
> >>>>>create
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>a
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>new style and give it the name.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>I assume you mean Heading 1, Heading 2, etc. Header is used
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >for
> >
> >
> >>>the
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>formatting of page headers.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>For existing styles, the simplest method of modifying them is
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >to
> >
> >
> >>>click
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>on
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>the "Modify" button when in the Styles dialog. Format =>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >Styles...
> >
> >
> >>>>>>>>--
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Charles Kenyon
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>See the MVP FAQ: <URL: http://www.mvps.org/word/> which is
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>awesome!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>> --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------
> >>>>>>>>This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies
> >>>>>>>>and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn
> >>>>>>>>from my ignorance and your wisdom.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>"Hans Näslund" <hans.naslund@spray.se> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>news:o2N1c.85023$dP1.237102@newsc.telia.net...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>I am using Word 2000.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>And yes - what I try to do is to modify some of the built-in
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>styles -
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>like
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Header 1 and 2, etc. Should that really be impossible? It
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >used
> >
> >
> >>>to be
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>possible before...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Hans
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>"Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> skrev i
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >meddelandet
> >
> >
> >>>>>>>>>news:%23c96VwgAEHA.2480@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>What version of Word? I assume you're not trying to
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >"modify"
> >
> >
> >>>one
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>style
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>by
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>saving it under the name of an existing built-in style?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>--
> >>>>>>>>>>Suzanne S. Barnhill
> >>>>>>>>>>Microsoft MVP (Word)
> >>>>>>>>>>Words into Type
> >>>>>>>>>>Fairhope, Alabama USA
> >>>>>>>>>>Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.word.mvps.org
> >>>>>>>>>>Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >to
> >
> >
> >>>the
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>newsgroup
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>so
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>all may benefit.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>"Hans Näslund" <hans.naslund@spray.se> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>news:uXC1c.84963$dP1.236636@newsc.telia.net...
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Yes, exactly - and when I click on Modify, I get an
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >error
> >
> >
> >>>>>message
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>telling
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>me
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>that the format name is already occupied. If I try to go
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >on
> >
> >
> >>>and
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>change
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>the
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>font, I am not allowed to save the change, and the same
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>error
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>mnessage
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>appears.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Hans
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>"Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> skrev i
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>meddelandet
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>news:%23IaQ7ZTAEHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>How are you trying to modify them? Are you going to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >Format
> >
> >
> >>>|
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>Style,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>selecting the desired style, clicking Modify, then
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>selecting
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>Format
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>|
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Font?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>--
> >>>>>>>>>>>>Suzanne S. Barnhill
> >>>>>>>>>>>>Microsoft MVP (Word)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>Words into Type
> >>>>>>>>>>>>Fairhope, Alabama USA
> >>>>>>>>>>>>Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.word.mvps.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >follow-ups
> >
> >
> >>>to
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>newsgroup
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>so
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>all may benefit.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>____________________________________
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