Re: Lockup and Slowdown Problems after installing August Critical

Thank you, PA Bear

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

I have used AVG free v7.5 for a long time...

Support for AVG Free v7.5 ended on 31 August 2008, Mike, although it may
still be functional on your machine.

On 26 Oct-08, you posted a "Me, too!" reply to a thread pertaining to the
updates released in Aug-08 (see subject) as well as one update (KB951748)
released in Jul-08. Do these same updates (i.e., not the Sept-08 or Oct-08
updates) coincide with the beginning of your SeaMonkey v1.1.12 issues? If
not, you'd be much better off if you'd started a new thread about your
issues.

That being said, what ZA application *and* version might you be running
(e.g., ZA Free v7.0.482.000; ZA Pro v6.5.737.000)?

ZAF 7.0.483.000

...I don't think MS is very careful in vetting their own security patches
before
releasing them to us, their customers.

That's a sore subject here, Mike. In fact, it's up to the vendors (e.g.,
AVG/Grisoft; ZA/CheckPoint) to make sure their software is compatible to
fully-patched Windows versions. MS even has a program related to this:

Microsoft Active Protections Program:
http://www.microsoft.com/security/msrc/mapp/overview.mspx

While CheckPoint is, in fact, a MAPP participant, Grisoft isn't yet:
http://www.microsoft.com/security/msrc/mapp/partners.mspx

I will point out that CheckPoint quickly made a "fix" available for its
customers which addressed issues related to KB951748:
http://download.zonealarm.com/bin/free/pressReleases/2008/LossOfInternetAccessIssue.html
--

Sorry about my comment, these computer problems are so frustrating.
When I posted the "me too" the fact pattern seemed identical to what I was
experiencing, and the only other system changes were "normal" updates for
AVG, Spybot S&D and SpywareBlaster. Could one of them have snuck in a system
update that put me in DLL hell? Sure. Do all software vendors make unknown
changes to systems without permission or explaining it? Sure. So I go thru
this exercise several times a year even without knowingly committing any
sin...haha

~PA Bear

Mike wrote:
Thanks, PA Bear!

I have used AVG free v7.5 for a long time, and only updated last when AVG
required, and had no system problems at that time....so I had assumed that
AVG is not the culprit, or at least low on the suspect priority list.

I would reason that high on that suspect list would be all system changes
made before the problem began, which, ipso facto, would/could only be the
MS
security downloads, and therefore when I saw John's posting re SM vs the
MS
patches, my hopes went up, but I see no resolution here.

Reinforcing this reasoning is the fact that, sometime last summer, another
MS security update caused a loss of internet connectivity due to a
conflict
with another program...perhaps Zone Alarm or AVG, I cannot recall. So I
don't think MS is very careful in vetting their own security patches
before
releasing them to us, their customers.

I had a bad day in court this morning, and it got worse at the IRS, so
maybe
I need to vent, but I seriously wonder why a class action suit has not
been
filed against MS for all this lost time due to defective software,
notwithstanding their weasel worded license "contract of adhesion".

Am I up another blind alley here?

Thanks for your response

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
Not sure what Harry had in mind but I *think* the issue he was thinking
of
pertained only to paid versions of AVG v8.0, Mike.

BTW, AVG Free 7.5 hasn't been supported in any Windows version since 31
Aug-08.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

Mike wrote:
Yes, AVG free v7.5. Is this a problem?

Mike wrote:
I've had the same or very similar problem with SeaMonkey 1.1.12 under
XPpro with all the MS security updates, P4 3.0ghz. When moving from
email to email, it hourglasses so much, it is unusable, even to the
point
where I would say it is locking up. Could this be a conflict?

"Harry Johnston [MVP]" wrote:
Do you have AVG antivirus?


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