Re: windows update to wrong drive

Just FYI, I have Notrton Internet Security 2008 -- so yes, a firewall. Not
crazy about it, but had decided to stick with the devil I know (for this year
at least -- I mean, at least it was free w/the rebates).

Again, short on time at the moment, so will get back to you later on your
suggestion.

"MowGreen [MVP]" wrote:

I have Norton

Oh, oh. *Any* Symantec 'product' for home use with a Windows OS may/will
bring about updating issues.
The version of Norton installed is not allowing the system to be
validated. Using IE, go here for a diagnosis:
http://www.microsoft.com/genuine/diag/

IF this is a Norton 'security suite' with a firewall, suggest you
disable that firewall and use the native XP firewall instead when
visiting the above link.

IF the system can be validated, then revisit Windows Update once more.

I'm not sure just what the issue is here, Amy. At first it appeared to
be a disk space issue but now that you mention that Norton is installed,
all bets are off.

MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008]
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Amy wrote:

I actually, just thought I should add. . .

I'm realizing I don't currently have any notifications for new updates.
When I do run Windows Update, I get a message that "To use the latest version
of Windows Update, [I] need to uprade some of its components." I had tried
run the download for this more than once, & it fails to download. It's the
Windows Genuine Advantage Validation Tool (KB892130).

This possibly explains the error message I was getting when I deleted the
folders.

"Amy" wrote:


I finished cleaning out the files (& emptying recycle bin). Minimal impact
on C drive space.

The files were remaining in C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\Download (I did
delete them after the previous post).

For my own verification. I can delete the files that are showing up on my G
drive. For example (as I just found them still sitting in my recycle bin), I
had a folder named 48a37009a21b51ee8d. This is a staging file? They
seemed like temp files to me, but for some reason Windows didn't seem happy
when tried to delete them. I got an error message something along the lines
of a missing file or component (unfortunately I didn't write it down) when I
did it.

Also, when I went back to Windows Update, it said I hadn't downloaded files
which supposedly were downloaded when I had previously left. I had noticed
that after I had downloaded that the notification that updates were available
was still showing (I prefer to download manually, auto-downloads mess-up my
internet connection -- I have Norton, we'll leave it at that), so I went back
to Windows Updates (as sometimes you do need to run it twice), & it seemed
none of them had downloaded.

Are the staging files not working then? Do I have to manually run them
somehow?

I have run the disk cleanup & defrag before. I don't remember the last time
I used them. I think in the spring. I probably use it twice a year.

"MowGreen [MVP]" wrote:


Amy wrote:


I'll have to look into this more later -- short on time right now, but . . .

My G drive is larger than my C drive -- short of moving all my programs from
C to G (which I don't want to do), I can't think of a way to offset this.
The C drive has room though -- it's only about 40% "used space." I actually
had the G drive installed for about a year before the updates started
downloading there.


The size of the drive is not the determining factor for which drive the
updates are downloaded to, it's the * amount of free space * on the
drive that is the determining factor.
As you've witnessed, the update were not downloaded to G:\ until the
* amount of free space * on C:\ became smaller than whatever AU requires
to store, unpack to a temp staging area, install, and then delete the
temp staging area.


There is no one temp folder (hidden or not) on my G drive. The updates
weren't going into any folder on the G drive -- each was making it's own
folder. I'm not sure if those were temp folders, as I tried to delete them,
& the next time I went to Windows update, it said I hadn't downloaded them.
The thing is, it seems sometimes the updates aren't downloading properly to
the G drive anyways, as it get errors, or told I never downloaded the update
(when they're sitting right on my G drive).


So, each update created a temp staging area on G:\. The updates were
then installed to C:\ and the temp staging areas deleted.
Thanks for that info.
IF those updates were installed then revisiting Windows Update should
*not* have reoffered them.

I need you to check
C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\Download
to see if the updates are being downloaded there and remaining there
past the time that they should. They are supposed to be deleted over a
period of time so as to prevent unnecessary lost of diskspace.

We can 'trick' Windows or Automatic Updates into downloading and staging
all the updates to the C:\ drive but I'd like to find out what's going
on with the Download subfolder first.

Have you ever run a disk clean up tool on/or defragmented C:\ ?


MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008]
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"MowGreen [MVP]" wrote:



Amy wrote:



I have 2 hard drives (C & G). The Windows Updates keep trying to install on
my G drive. This has also happened when I try to download other things from
the Microsoft website. How do I stop this?

I have Windows XP SP2. It is installed on my C drive. (I had found similar
posts where they were asking how to change to the non-Windows drive). I use
the G only for storing some files (i.e. pictures, music).

The G drive downloading is a fairly recent development. Prior to that the
updates were downloading directly to my C drive. I don't remember that
happening before. Aren't they supposed to go into something like the Windows
folder?

Amy,

The updates are downloading to the G:\ drive because there's more space
on that drive than C:\
They are being stored there to be installed to C:\
Unless you can reclaim enough disk space to make the space available on
C:\ greater than G:\, than this behavior will persist.
Suggest you read this to see if it helps reclaim disk space:

I want to Save Space and delete unnecessary files after installing a
Windows Update patch or Service Pack.
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spack.htm

Also, you should check to see if the subfolder that held the downloaded
updates on C:\ is retaining them longer than it should.

Show hidden files, folders, and system files
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial62.html#winxp

Using Windows Explorer [ Start > All Programs > Accessories ], navigate
to the WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\Download folder

Delete *all* contents of the Download folder of *all* downloaded updates
that are already installed. Check the G:\ drive for a temp folder that
may be holding downloaded and previously installed updates, too. Since
I've never seen this issue in person I can't tell you precisely where it
may be.

MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008]
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Never Forgotten
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