Re: New info on stealth updates
- From: "MowGreen [MVP]" <mowgreen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 12:22:25 -0700
CORRECTION: > If one disables AU|WU via the CP applet and the Service has NOT been disabled, then
the system *will* update the files required to download and install updates.
IF one chooses to set the Automatic Updates *options* to " Turn off Automatic Updates " than the Windows Update Agent/Client will *never* be updated. I just tested this on a VPC installation of XP Pro that had not been booted since April.
The ONLY way that the WUA will be installed is when AU's options are either " Notify me ", " Download updates for me, BUT ... ", or Automatic.
All THREE of the above options will install the latest V. of WUA without ANY User interaction.
MowGreen [MVP] wrote:
From: http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/wu.html.
If you have a machine which has not been updated yet with the stealth updates, and AU is turned off, then you turn AU on, those files will be updated without notification to the user before the bubble pops up from the systray stating updates are available.
The above is *correct*. There's confusion over the AU|WU settings via the applet in Control Panel and the SERVICE.
If one disables AU|WU via the CP applet and the Service has NOT been disabled, then the system *will* not update the files required to download and install updates. Said files are known as the Windows Update Agent/Client and are system files.
In fact, the EULA for XP, which few can wade through since it's so long, specifically states that MS *will* update system files when MS deems it necessary.
Does that make this acceptable ?
NO !
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/blogs/mowgreen/index.php?showentry=1166
Could Microsoft have done a better job communicating the fact that the Windows Update Agent/Client was about to be updated ?
ABSOLUTELY !
Did this escapade lower User Trust in Microsoft's updates ?
ABSOLUTELY !
Now it's up to MS to regain said Trust. Your move, MS.
COMMUNICATE your updates, as you did in late May, to the WUA and Trust can be rebuilt.
Remain silent on such updates and Users all over the World will be turning off Automatic Updates.
It's not really rocket science, is it ? <w>
MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]
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The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy' wrote:
I have composed a webpage with all the info I have so far, and I'll be adding to it as I learn more.
http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/wu.html
There is no KB number to reference, and if you look at the event viewer entries they leave when they update, they are referred to as 'Automatic Updates'. I don't think MS could have made this more vague and uninformative than they already have. The link below shows screenshots of the event viewer entries:
http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=779
MS pissed off alot of people by invading their privacy installing these updates without notice, plus have raised serious security concerns about both XP and Vista. Bad move on their part!
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