Re: Windows XP Updates installing automatically when option disabl

Thanks George. I too have lost work dozens of times because of the
persistency of the auto reboot feature, which cannot as far as I can tell be
turned off.

Since posting this question I've rechecked what options I had set in
Windows, and found that they were on 'Automatic Download and Install'. The
funny thing is that I have reset the option from AUTOMATIC to 'NOTIFY and not
download/install' FOUR OR FIVE TIMES before on this PC, but it seems to keep
reverting to 'Automatic'. And this has not just happened with this PC but
also the other three that I have. The only explanation I can come up with is
that the Updates themselves are resetting the PC to Automatic Updates!!!!

So even a simple reset doesn't do it. Does this have something to do with
not downloading 'Genuine Advantage' (yes my version of Windows XP is genuine,
but I fail to see the advantage TO ME at least in downloading a 1.1MB
programme to allow Microsoft to test remotely that it is, and presumably
generally spy on my PC)?



"George Valkov" wrote:

May I enlighten you on the truth?
Automatic updates have the "feature" to disturb you every now and then so
that you have better sense of how much time have passed. You can count the
number of times the pop-up appears saying:
A: Updates are installed, it's time to restart.
U: Not now, I'm working...
A: Em... what about now?
....
It also has a feature to train your concentration:
the default button or option is restart now, so if you are typing text and
accidentally hit "SPACE" or "ENTER", you'll have no chance to save. That
also trains your fast response on unexpected events.

And the moral of that is:
Automatic updates are good for you, so my first things to do after
installing windows are:
disable automatic updates, dismiss the dog, so I can find files faster,
remove the places in my computer. Shot the messenger and, check what's new
with windows -- Man, how I love that part when I'm in a hurry! And then I
reconfigure (turning everything upside-down) a lot of other lovely features
that Microsoft liberally added to their operating systems.


George Valkov



| Shenan
|
| You wrote:
| 'You are allowing them to download and notify you... Just have it NOTIFY
you
| and NOT download/install. Then you have more control and still have the
| option of having something else remind you to check for updates.'
|
| I thought the option that I have Windows XP set to IS to 'NOTIFY and NOT
| download/install', but sometimes it just goes and downloads anyway, even
| rebooting my machine to install when I have walked away from the machine
for
| 5 minutes after chosing the option 'Don't install now' three or four
times.
|
| I know I didn't have to install E7. I did on one machine and deinstalled
it,
| then was careful to stop it being installed on my other machines, but I
| understand it is going to be distributed via automatic update in
September,
| which is why I'm worried about it.
|
| In any case shouldn't the option do what it 'says on the tin', ie. give me
| the chance to review updates before installing. Installing updates on my
| machine without me giving permission must surely be violating some sort of
| law isn't it?
|
|
|
| "Shenan Stanley" wrote:
|
| > Anothernetworknewbie wrote:
| > > I have set my Windows XP Update option to only download updates
| > > once I have reviewed the updates.
| > >
| > > I have used Windows XP for 2/3 years now and generally consider the
| > > experience disastrous. I have not had so many problems running my
| > > own PC (hanging, crashing etc.) since the mid 1980s. I also
| > > consider some of the updates a violation of my privacy and could
| > > cause big problems with other software on my PC (eg. Explorer 7 is
| > > not compatible with eBay's Turbolister 2 which I use extensively in
| > > the on-line selling part of my business).
| > >
| > > However, I often find Windows XP Updates install themselves
| > > automatically anyway (and automatically reboot my machine at
| > > inconvenient times too). I found 12 updates automatically installed
| > > themselves on one of my machines yesterday when I logged off,
| > > without me having any opportunity to review the updates being
| > > installed. I just noticed that the same would have happened on one
| > > of my machines if I had not noticed the option to 'Turn off'
| > > without installation. I re-rentered my machine to see if I could
| > > review the Updates and found I could not.
| > >
| > > How I stop this? I have definitely set my Update options to allow
| > > me to review Updates before installation, but it seems to ignore
| > > this at times.
| >
| > So - don't set it to automatically update at all.
| >
| > If you want more control over what goes on your system (you did *not*
have
| > to update to IE7 for example) then visit
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/
| > periodically (at least the day after the second Tuesday of each month)
and
| > scan for/install whatever updates you wish. There is nothing stating
you
| > *have* to setup updates to automatically notify you, download or
install.
| > You can - in Windows XP - turn that off and be responsible for it
yourself.
| >
| > What you have chosen is perhaps not the option for you. You are
allowing
| > them to download and notify you... Just have it NOTIFY you and NOT
| > download/install. Then you have more control and still have the option
of
| > having something else remind you to check for updates.
| >
| > --
| > Shenan Stanley
| > MS-MVP
| > --
| > How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
| > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
| >
| >
| >



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