Re: GOD
- From: "realcestmoi" <mdenie@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 18:55:33 +0200
God works in mysteriousways: so do patches;)
By the way the two systems are totaly different one is a 775 conroe machine
and the other is an AMD Atlhon X2 64
"Alan" <somewhere@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Kind of like God's will, huh?? :>
I actually had no problems installing this latest round of patches. My
problem occurred between the June and July patches, when I was getting
error messages whenever I went to the Windows Update site.
Alan
"realcestmoi" <mdenie@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hi there,
I strongly believe the software is not crappy since everything installed
just fine on my 2 windows Xp machines which are fully updated.
I suspect that the problem is more related to the man or woman behind the
PC;)
Best regards,
Michel Denie
"Alan" <somewhere@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Shenan,
I'm sorry if you might have thought I was criticizing your attempt to
help. That wasn't my intent at all.
I'm not a Microsoft basher by any means. In another thread in this
newsgroup I have mentioned that I used to work for a company in the
mid-90's to which Microsoft outsourced its phone support.
To the world, when people dialed Redmond and reached us, WE were
Microsoft. And I was proud of my connection to Microsoft.
I suppose I'm just disappointed -- and to a degree, a bit angry -- that
Microsoft has allowed something of this magnitude to be released and has
not seen fit to at least publicly mention that they might have messed up
and are actively working to correct it.
Alan
"Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Lynn wrote:
WHAT A NIGHTMAIRE?????? !!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON
MICROSOFT????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Shenan Stanley wrote:
What does "God" have to do with whatever problem you think you are<snipped steps>
having? (I say "you think" because you gave no clue beyond the
newsgroup you are posting in what your specific issue might be.)
As far as "What the heck is going on, Microsoft?" (Notice - I did
not use all upper case lettering and I utilized minimal
punctuation) - I am going to throw myself out there and make a
LARGE assumption that you may be speaking of the numbers of .NET
framewwork update issues being posted about over the last week.
"What is going on" (what I have seen reported - may/may not be
true) is that an update (or more) was released that seemingly did
not check some things it should have (in particular - if certain
previous updates (optional) that were necessary to this update (or
more) were installed before applying itself.) This has caused
various issues.
The general solution to this is a long one - although it seems
deceptively simple:
- Remove ALL traces (uninstall completely) every version of the .NET
Framework you now have installed.
- Install each of the versions (1.1, 2.0 at least, 3.0 as well for
good measure) and their patches (one version at a time, in
time/date order for the patches for each version - in other
words... 1.1, patches for 1.1 in date order... 2.0, patches for 2.0
in date order... 3.0, patches for 3.0 in date order.)
Then your problem with the repeating installation (or other possible
scenarios) should be over.
Although there have been reports of such fixes *not* working - one
cannot be sure that ANY part was done correctly/completely - as
this can become quite technical and not everyone may be leaning
into that area of skill/expertise.
There are also people who have had luck with other
solutions/work-arounds that are much simpler (Repairing the .NET
Frameworks as opposed to removing/properly patching them.) That
may work for you and those methods are covered in the articles
linked below - under the title(s), "Repair the .NET Framework".
<the thread - in its entirity - can be found:>
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/browse_thread/thread/33c1e53a68232da1/c44b22454462ea1b?lnk=st&q=&rnum=4
Alan wrote:
I think the concept of a crappy software writer from Microsoft
pushing out patches had occurred to many of us -- including me -- a
few days ago.
It really would be nice for Microsoft to pay a knowledgeable
software writer much more money than it paid the original author(s)
for them to push out a GOOD patch and automatically fix this
debacle.
<Alan also attached this to the response in this thread>
<... for reasons unknown ...>
<begin extraneous quote here>
TaurArian wrote:
The framework update is failing due to corruption of the original
installation of the framework package. That to me appears to be a
problem with your computer not the update. Perhaps blame the
person who looks after the maintenance etc on your computer.
Alan wrote:
TaurArian,
That's a very glib and cavalier response. You seem to be very sure
that the problem so many people here are having is somehow THEIR
fault, and not the update itself.
Shouldn't someone from the number one Software company in the
world who writes -- and publishes -- an update for a prior
installation that MAY (according to you) be corrupt first test for
that possible corruption?
And if it IS corrupt, shouldn't a well-written update try to fix
the corruption and then install? Or just not attempt to install.
I think a phrase from the Hippocratic Oath that all doctors pledge
is apt here: "To help, or at least to do no harm."
<end extraneous quote here>
While I agree - it would be nice for there to be some tool put out to
correct this issue (and it wouldn't be too hard to script most of it
actually) - I don't plan on ceasing my attempts to help those who ask
for. The best I can do right now - beyond writing some script that
might help - is to put the steps out there. Perhaps someone will look
at them and use them as pseudo-code to fix it and in the meantime -
someone else might fix their own issues and not have to worry about
waiting. Heck - perhaps someone will look at the steps I publish and
eliminate some, correct something or just have an epiphany of an easier
method of fixing it. If two brains are better than one - what are
dozens?
You have to remember - this 'debacle' has only existed (in its current
state in reference to the latest (July 10, 2007) .NET Framework issues)
for a total of four (4) full days. Admittedly - this is one of the
first times I have seen quite this overwhelming response to a released
update/patch (excluding perhaps SP2) - but it doesn't change the desire
to try and help.
--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
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