Re: XP update loses sound card
- From: "realcestmoi" <mdenie@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 04:16:31 +0100
Hi there,
The Yamaha OPL3 SAx is as far as I can see not the correct drivert, you
should try the sound card driver from Toshiba
ttp://209.167.114.38/support/Download/files_downloads/s2410/S241BPSN.exe,
did you try to run the setup? or for manual install: add new hardware sound
device and poin to the YAWT90.INF file and force install?
Best regards,
Michel Denie
"jgreg" <jgreg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hello,
I did use the autoexec.bat you typed out for me and it does show more
hidden
devices. I typed them all out a few posts down.
The WINMM WDM Audio driver is out of the list now. The kernel system audio
device is back in the list and greyed out.
I have tried to manually install the sound card. There is nothing detected
automatically anyway. Down in the previous posts I listed some of what
what
is available to me in the maual install list. The only Yamaha product
available, which I have tried, is the yamaha OPL3-SAx Reserved and WDM
Driver.
Thanks
--
toshiba tecra9100 notebook
1.80 gigahertz Intel Mobile Pentium 4M
512 kilobyte secondary memory cache
S3 Graphics SuperSavage/IXC 1179
AND A LOST Yamaha AC-XG AC''''''''97
"realcestmoi" wrote:
Hi there,
Is the Microsoft WINMM WDM Audio out of the list of hardware now?
Did you try to make a manual (forced) install of the Yamaha AC-XG ?
I suggested the making of the autoexec.bat and running it because some
hidden devices will not show up despite the fact you choose show hidden
devices, so did you try doing it that way?
Best regards,
Michel Denie
"jgreg" <jgreg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hello again,
The sound is enabled and uninstalling the Microsoft WINMM WDM Audio
Compatibility Driver did not work.
One unusual thing was I did uninstall the Microsoft Kernel System Audio
Device
and some of the greyed out icons became greyed(if that is the right way
to
say it)
Thanks
--
toshiba tecra9100 notebook
1.80 gigahertz Intel Mobile Pentium 4M
512 kilobyte secondary memory cache
S3 Graphics SuperSavage/IXC 1179
AND A LOST Yamaha AC-XG AC''''97
"realcestmoi" wrote:
Hi there,
1) Check if in your bios settings your sound is enabled.
2) Try uninstalling the 'Microsoft WINMM WDM Audio Compatibility
Driver'
entry in your devices and reboot the computer and see if sound is
working
now.
Let me know if more help is needed please?
Best regards,
Michel Denie
"jgreg" <jgreg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hello and thanks again!
I have been out of town so sorry to not post in a few days.
I have been to my device manager many times and shown hidden
devices.
There
is no Yamaha AC-XG so no luck there.
Under "Sound, video and game controllers" I have:
Audio Codecs
Legacy Audio Drivers
Legacy Video Capture Devices
Media Control Devices
Video Codecs
AND WITH THE SPEAKER ICON GREYED OUT I HAVE:
Microsoft Kernel Acoustic Echo Canceller
Microsoft Kernel Audio Splitter
Microsoft Kernel DLS Synthesizer
Microsoft Kernel DRM Audio Descrambler
Microsoft Kernel GS Wavetable Synthesizer
Microsoft Kernel System Audio Device
Microsoft Kernel Wave Aduio Mixer
Microsoft Streaming Clock Proxy
Microsoft Streaming Quality Manager Proxy
Microsoft Streaming Service Proxy
Microsoft WINMM WDM Audio Compatibility Driver
When I try to force install I add a new hardware device and select
manually
from the list of Sound, and video and game controllers because no
sound
card
is ever detected automatically. The notebook is listed as having
Yamaha®
YMF753 16-bit stereo. Ver.2.0 SoundBlaster Pro Compatible Built-in
stereo
speakers in the link you sent Michel. In my manufacturer and model
list
I
have a creative technology and a yamaha entry. The creative has the
drivers
"game port for creative" and "soundblaster 16 or AWE32 or compatible
[WDM]"
The Yamaha manufacturer has the drivers "game port, yamaha OPL3-SAx
Reserved
and WDM Driver"
I have tried installing the yamaha device with drivers, changing
drivers,
rebooting, uninstalling, repeating all this over and over. I have
also
tried
many of the entries in the manual device listing. AARGHH! I am
almost
to
the
point of selling this laptop, or smashing it on the front steps of
microsoft,
or shelling out $100 I should not have to for a Creative PCMCIA
Sound
Blaster
Audigy 2 ZS THX Notebook Sound Card.
Thanks.
--
toshiba tecra9100 notebook
1.80 gigahertz Intel Mobile Pentium 4M
512 kilobyte secondary memory cache
S3 Graphics SuperSavage/IXC 1179
AND A LOST Yamaha AC-XG AC''''97
"realcestmoi" wrote:
Hi there welcome again.
Try showing the hidden devices under device mangager by copying
this
text
and pasting it into a text file:
set devmgr_show_nonpresent_devices=1
cd %SystemRoot% \system32
start devmgmt.msc
Now save it as Autoexec.bat
when done double click it and the device manager will open in
there
click
the view tab and mark show hidden devices check if the sound card
Yamaha
AC-XG AC''''97 ( toshiba shows this sound card Yamaha AC-XG Sound
Driver
http://209.167.114.38/support/Download/files_downloads/s2410/S241BPSN.exe
)
is there hidden under sound devices, if so remove it and try the
forced
install again after you have rebooted.
http://www.toshiba.ca/web/product.grp?section=1&group=223&product=379
Best regards,
Michel Denie
"jgreg" <jgreg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Thanks again!
I have tried selecting and installing all sound hardware from the
select
list with no luck. I thought that was going to be the cure. I
think
I
will
try it again just in case I missed something, although I did go
over
every
hardware option twice. Maybe there is something I missed with
drivers
during
that.
Thanks.
--
toshiba tecra9100 notebook
1.80 gigahertz Intel Mobile Pentium 4M
512 kilobyte secondary memory cache
S3 Graphics SuperSavage/IXC 1179
AND A LOST Yamaha AC-XG AC''''97
"realcestmoi" wrote:
Hi there you are most welcome;)
Did you try a forced install, so ad new hardware -> ( no
autodetection)
soundcard and point to the correct driver?
Best regards,
Michel Denie
"jgreg" <jgreg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Thanks for the reply Michel.
Unfortunately your advice was already covered in my original
post. I
appreciate your willingness to help, but the hardware is not
detected
so
driver rollback or hardware unistallation is a non-issue. It
broke
when
I
updated XP so I have to fix it. I have been out of sound for
months.
I
have
tried every driver version from the manufacturer as well as
the
Yamaha
AC-XG
update from microsoft, but drivers will not correctly install
if
Windows
will
not detect the soundcard. The XP updates mess with something
in
the
registry
or something that prevents the perfectly installed soundcard
from
being
detected. Please see entire original post.
Thanks
--
toshiba tecra9100 notebook
1.80 gigahertz Intel Mobile Pentium 4M
512 kilobyte secondary memory cache
S3 Graphics SuperSavage/IXC 1179
AND A LOST Yamaha AC-XG AC''''97
"realcestmoi" wrote:
Hi there,
This is quit normal if you download drivers from MS update,
drivers
should
be downloaded from the manufacturers website and only if
really
needed:
if
it ain't broke: do not fix it.
Try rolling back on the current not working driver and
install a
new
driver
if really needed. Deleting the device and reinstalling might
help.
Best regards,
Michel Denie
"jgreg" <jgreg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hello, this is the poster here again asking for any new
advice
on
this
subject.
Any other Tecra9100 users out there? Is your sound working
after
all
the
updates?
I miss sound.
--
toshiba tecra9100 notebook
1.80 gigahertz Intel Mobile Pentium 4M
512 kilobyte secondary memory cache
S3 Graphics SuperSavage/IXC 1179
AND A LOST Yamaha AC-XG AC''''97
"jgreg" wrote:
This is a much addressed topic and I have tried everything
I
can
find
and
cannot get XP update to work with my sound card. To add to
my
annoyance,
xp
does not work with my newer video card for microsoft games
like
Age
of
Empies. I have read that the XP update is incompatible
with
my
soundcard,
but
I refuse to believe that there is not some advanced fix
for
this.
I have a Tecra 9100 notebook with an integrated Yamaha
AC-XG
soundcard.
It came with a pre-service pack version of Windows.
Before updating, windows automatically installed an Intel
82801
CA/CAM
AC'97
driver and the sound worked fine. After updating, my sound
card
can
not
be
found. The soundcard is installed but XP says it is not.
No
conflicts,
just
not installed. No drivers to rollback. Restoring to an
earlier
point
does
not
work. Volume and sound control is greyed out. Adding a new
device
finds
nothing. Selecting a standard device from the hardware
list
.
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