Re: spyware included with windows security updates

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maeiouw wrote:
can someone please explain to me why, after downloading and
express installing windows security updates on my clean windows
xp system, I have to immediately run my freedom antispyware
program and remove at least a half dozen spyware programs from my
system? midaddle seems to be the most popular included spyware
program. what's up with that? who am I protecting my system
from -- hackers or Microsoft?? thanks!

David H. Lipman wrote:
The malware didn't come from Microsoft ! That's a faux conclusion.

Chances are the Malicious Software Removal tool was downloaded and
executed causing a scan of your computer. The MRT didn't find
malware but the scanning of the hard disk kicked off Freedom AV as
the files were being scanned.

Be careful about drawing conclusion and then making wild
accusations.

maeiouw wrote:
yes, wild accusations, thank you......I've been studying this "wild
phenomenon" for several months now and it seems to work out the
same way -- I get notified that I have security updates. I run an
antispyware scan BEFORE downloading the updates and either come up
with none (usually, since I run the antispyware program everyday),
or if there are any, delete them BEFORE downloading the updates.
then, after installing the updates I IMMEDIATELY run the
antispyware program again, and lo and behold, spyware!!! yes, it
is wild! thank you for your input.

Then support them... Don't just throw them out.

Screaming "the sky is falling" without a piece of the sky as proof is about
as effective as what you are doing now. Most of us will make a snide
comment or ignore you completely and drift away, leaving you screaming about
the sky falling in the middle of the town square.

Certainly - if you have been "studying" this for "several months", you have
documented the spyware you do find. You have possibly recorded
screen-capture motion video you can post (or at least screenshots) showing
your pre-scan, download of updates and post-scan results. Show us what you
have. Also - prove to yourself that it is Windows Updates... Scan with
your scanner, reboot, visit 3 to 5 non-Microsoft web pages and reboot..
Scan again... Find anything? Also - I might suggest using OTHER
antiSpyware applications... I cannot speak out for/against "Freedom
Antispyware" - But I know it is not one of the ones I see recommended on
these newsgroups...

I personally have not seen this on any of the machines I manage... And they
ALL get scanned with various antispyware applications periodically and many
of them have not reported ANY spyware in several months --> and they are all
updated regularly. Could I show you proof of this? Probably not - because
I just keep track of when I find spyware and I push all the updates to these
machines - so I know when they got those too... But I am not the one making
claims I need to support here. I am accusing my systems of working as
advertised - showing proof of that would be... unnecessary and obsessive.

Right now you are standing in the town square - in your Spiderman pajamas no
less - screaming about the sky falling. Show us a piece of the sky. ;-)

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
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How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
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