Re: Problems with slow machies and custom updates (win2k).

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I'm also on a dial-up 56K modem, and there is a 'feature-bug' with
dial-up
icon set to taskbar. If you have always show icon (internet setting ...
not
HIde icons setting), the registry is access constantly delaing with TCPIP
parameters (verified with REGMON). Turn off always show dial-up icon,
the
polling stops.


Or, just change your FileMon filter to eliminate its capture of that
process.
FWIW the filter that I like to use is:
SoftwareDistribution;update;CatRoot

FileMon does not monitor RegMon, and RegMon does not monitor FileMon. In
this scenario, I have RegMon monitoring svchost.exe, only.

The overhead is the polling of the TCPIP connection by RegMon, with the
Dial-up Icon on, the polling occurs.
With the icon off, polling stops.

Setting OE to offline has no bearing on the polling. It's the connection.
And I cannot control how every Network oriented application operates in
Windows XP. The problem is Dial-up causing polling when the icon shows.

However, I didn't know about the rasdial /d (assuming the /d is for
disconnect).

"Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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"NewScience" <newscience83@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I have monitored this with Process Explorer. The 'hog' is svchost that
controls Automatic Updates and BITS (as well as many others). Using
FileMon
as well I've monitored file access, which is quite extensive, in which
checks are being done when 'hook-up' occurs.


I bet if you activated verbose mode logging there would be even more. <w>
(ref. KB902093)


BTW if you are actually getting as far as downloading, bitsadmin
can be a useful diagnostic too. E.g. in a cmd window enter:

bitsadmin /monitor /allusers /wrap

E.g. sometimes there seems to be is an error in the update's packaging
and you will note a loop as a result both via this monitor or (more
explicitly)
in the WindowsUpdate.log.



I'm also on a dial-up 56K modem, and there is a 'feature-bug' with
dial-up
icon set to taskbar. If you have always show icon (internet setting ...
not
HIde icons setting), the registry is access constantly delaing with TCPIP
parameters (verified with REGMON). Turn off always show dial-up icon,
the
polling stops.


Or, just change your FileMon filter to eliminate its capture of that
process.
FWIW the filter that I like to use is:
SoftwareDistribution;update;CatRoot

That really helps you "read between the lines" of the log
and even lets you correlate the log's records with the
FileMon and RegMon trace entries (using appropriate Options).



The problem is, that if you run into a problem dealing with OE spawning
hyperlinks for into IE, without the dial-up icon, you cannot manually
disconnect.


Just because the DUN icon is gone? Find another way to disconnect.

There are several:
1. Set Work Offline in OE and accept the prompt
2. Use rasdial /d (in a cmd window)
3. Open DUN Monitor from the Start menu
4. Etc.


HTH

Robert Aldwinckle
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"dave xnet" <davexnet02DEL@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:06:39 -0400, "NewScience"
<newscience83@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Yes, I've been trying to track this down. If I leave my system up and
try
a
Custom Update around 2-3 AM, it seems to work.

This I don't understand because the Express and Custom, both go to the
same
route in determining download criteria.

ANd the error messafe, The web-site has detected an error ...., SUCKS!
I
don't know how many times that comes out with different error codes.
Why
can't MS be SPECIFIC!

As I mentioned in an earlier post, using Sysinternals "process
explorer" you can narrow the High CPU down to the thread level.
The thread is named, but at that point, it's only of use to
individuals familiar with Windows programming.

Perhaps we need to enlist some help, and post the details
in a programming-oriented group.

Dave







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