Re: Long delay before the updates appear

Hi,
I have been suffering the same problem. Not only does it take a long time,
but svchost uses up to 98% of CPU utilization, ensuring you can do nothing
else for that time.

Also, I have three PCs connected through the same Internet connection and
only one of them suffers this problem. I have had to turn off automatic
updates to stop it from randomly hogging my CPU. But every time I use MS
Update or Windows Update on this PC, the same thing happens every time.

If it IS the way it is supposed to work, it is a very poor piece of
engineering and needs to be fixed. (No app should hog 98% of CPU). But as
this delay does not happen on all PCs it would indicate that there is another
problem somewhere.

I'd certainly like to hear from anyone who has been able to overcome this
issue.

Cheers, Steve A


"NewScience" wrote:

That is how it's suppose to work ... even though it takes a long time (on
some connections).

There are many variables involved:

1. Your connection speed
2. Your CPU
3. The load on MS server
4. The number of servers you go thru to get there.

That's just the connection side. The communication side is just as
involving:

1. Once you get connected up, svchost and wuaclt.exe talk with the other
side and pass initial information back and forth. The basically use the
information in your C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\DataStore\DataStore.edb
file. This is a multi-partitioned file ... to view it use esentutl and dump
the meta-data.

The information is basically history information that is compared with the
info on MS. In this fashion, this is the only way MS determines what you
have and don't have. It also initially determines if your Update software
is up-to-date, in order to determine if it needs to update that first.

This is the first 6-7 minutes ... the more updates you have the longer it
takes.

Once the history is determined, MS then determines of the updates available,
which ones are pertinent to your system.

Then it initializes the Installation procedure and goes thru a series of
downloading packets to the C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download folder
as well as keeping the DataStore.edb file up-to-date as it proceeds.

Once everything is downloaded, it then proceeds to install. Each folder
normally has a update folder that contains an update.exe and some *.inf
file. The *.inf file contains the information on reboot instructions
(whether the system should reboot after installation), and/or registry
modifications. All this information is logged in a C:\Windows\KB*.log file
as well as the C:\Windows\WindowsUpdate.log.

Once all this is done, the notification that the installations have been
performed and whether or not the system needs to be rebooted. If I'm doing
a manual download/install, I normally chose the Close button, so that I can
see the results of the downloads/installs. Then I manually reboot.

The problem that arises is when DLLs are not re-registered (when in one of
the packages), you run out of space, or you receive a partial download and
the connection is broken.

This really screws up the DataStore.edb file.

Regardless, I have yet to see where the Download folder gets cleaned up
after successful installs and you have these packages sitting around takeing
up space. Supposedly, I believe I read somewhere, where these folders/files
are removed after 45 days. Haven't seen it, but really haven't kept tabs.


"davexnet" <davexnet01@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:1155184832.116574.102150@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Hello, I'm accessing WU from IE6. I'm using this path:
ie6/tools/windows update/express.

When I hit express, I get the animation with the green bars as it does
it's thing.
Problem is it takes 6 or 7 minutes before the list appears.
While I was waiting, I used task manager (in windows 2000) to look at
cpu
utilization. One of the svchost.exe was using 98% the whole time.
I opened up sysinternals process explorer and see that this svchost is
associated with
wuauserv.

After about 7 minutes the list appears and I hit "install". The
progress box appears,
and I see the update downloading one at a time. Then it says
"initializing installation"
(or similar). Here it takes another 6 or 7 minutes before anthing
happens. Once again
svchost/wuauser is using all the cpu. Eventually, everything installs
normally.

Any troubleshooting advice appreciated.
Thanks,
Dave




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