Re: KB918419 failure? Check your antispy program for BHO blocking.

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"Stewart" <noemail@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:2ulnb2dalg0aigi4f95ocsd3bi32p8jh73@xxxxxxxxxx
"Noel Paton" <NoelDPspamless@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Your problem there was twofold
1) going onto the internet with an unpatched machine
with no firewall - Windows XP is highly vulnerable
out-of-the-box, unless sp2 is installed, and/or the
firewall active. (snip)


At the time (the new computer), SP2 wasn't available yet. However, the
firewall was turned on - didn't slow the virus down one bit.


Duh?? WTF were you doing??
with the Windows firewall turned on, nothing should have been able to get at you! - even the RTM version was effective in that respect. The only way that coul;d have happened is if
1) you were already infected
or
2) you went surfing, rather than strictly getting the updates.




2) Installing anything from an untrusted source without
running it through a virus-scanner first.

NEVER begin installing third-party programs on a
machine until all updating is done, and an anti-virus
in place!


In each case, I don't think the programs had a thing to do with it. In
one incidence, I know for certain the virus came from my internet
service provider (sent an announcement to users the next day).

There''s still nothing there that shouldn't have been scanned first!

I
suspect various computers on the internet were also responsible for
the other two. One virus was discussed in the news media as coming
from internet servers, the other it is just a suspicion on my part (no
evidence).

This is yet more example of pure supposition - no evidence from anyone



I trust that you complained to the manufactures of
the commercial program? (snip)


Again, I don't think the manufacturers had a thing to do with it,
other than demanding anti-virus software be turned off during the
installation.

Then where did the virus come form??



Did they confirm the virus, or was it a false-positive
from the AV? (not uncommon - expecially if the program
was for some kind of surveillance application)


Again, AV software wasn't active at the time. By the time that
software was turned back on, the computer was already displaying
symptoms. Norton AV fixed one on it's own.

AH! - the key word - NORTON!!!! (why was I waiting for that?)

Another trashed my system
so bad, Norton didn't even get a chance to run afterwards. Both it and
another had to be fixed manually (one fixed only by restoring my drive
from a backup)

Yup - that smacks of Norton all over



If it works for you, then fine - for many it is the kiss of death.


Perhaps so. Since I'm not one of those, I wouldn't know. However,
given that many millions world-wide use Norton AV, it appears a great
many others have a more positive opinion of the product. I've seen
other MVP's in this newsgroup express similar feelings about Norton
AV, which is interesting considering it's constantly rated (by
magazines and others)

one other interesting fact you might like to ponder upon - who pays for a lot of advertising in those magazines??

as the best, or one of the best, AV products
available. However, as they say, to each his own. And I'll leave it at
that. Take care, Noel.

stewart

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