Re: Is a Windows 98se computer more, or less, of a security threat with IE 5.5 (unused) & Firefox, or with IE 6.0 & latest updates (unused) & Firefox?

Well, I won't be upgrading but that is because Microsoft has seen fit, after
my using 98SE for over seven years, to suddenly accuse me of being a thief.
It is utterly ridiculous that Microsoft says I have to validate that very
old software on that very old computer. Is Microsoft giving away valid
copies of 98SE to all those found to have pirated the software?

"Noel Paton" <NoelDPspamless@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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So long as you disable your AV (or run the IE install from Safe Mode) then
there should be no problems.
NAV 2000 and 2001 both caused me severe problems - but I was in Win ME,
and Symantec have never fully supported that OS (or any other, come to
that, since they bought the product from Peter Norton - it's just that the
failings got more noticeable over time!). In the Win ME groups which are
my habitual home, the use of Symantec Software it the single greatest
cause of problems (outside 'user error').

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"Melelina" <melelina@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I didn't have any malware, it was not misconfigured, and low resources
were not the problem plus I have sufficient memory for that box (224MB). I
did have Norton 2001 though. I have heard a ton of complaints over the
years about Norton but not about NAV 2001. That was the last good NAV. I
left Symantec in 2002 for NOD32. Possibly NAV 2001 was a partial culprit
but so many people had the same problem at the time that I think it was
more likely an IE6 bug which certainly may not be there now if I were to
upgrade that computer again (plus I have Bit Defender free on it now). ;)

"Noel Paton" <NoelDPspamless@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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IE6 has no problems whatever with 98SE (I can't speak for 98FE, as I've
never used it there) - such problems as mostly existed when it came out
were due to either malware, misconfiguration, Norton <g> - those of you
who know me will maybe have been wondering when I was going to get that
one in!>, or low resource/memory problems.
I'd be willing to bet that if you were to upgrade your system today,
that it would be unlikely to show the same problems you seem to have
experienced then.

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"Melelina" <melelina@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I imagine he didn't upgrade to IE6 because it doesn't run well on 98SE.
I had IE6 5 minutes after it was originally released by Microsoft and,
one week later, I reverted to IE5.5 due to the non display of images
problem that many of us saw back then and the fact that it was much
slower. I still use IE5.5. IE6 has improved considerably since the
original version was released but it is simply not intended for 98/98SE.
I also use Fx as the default browser on that computer. I am just an
individual though and do not have the concerns a business might have. I
am not worried about getting infected because I use IE5.5 on that
computer.

"Noel Paton" <NoelDPspamless@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Bear in mind that support for IE6 RTM and SP1 also expires very soon -
there won't be many updates for them, either!

IE6SP1 is considerably more secure than IE5.5 - and this holds even if
it's not used as the browser. Parts of IE are used by the OS for
different things, including rendering help files, etc., and
infestations of malware can attack unpatched (which is what IE5.5 is)
versions a lot easier than patched versions. Tightening the security
down on IE6 is also better.

Since upgrading to IE6SP1 is a no-cash-cost option, I'm really at a
loss to see what prevented you doing it when it made most sense to do
so - two years ago.
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"Nate Goulet" <askifyouwant@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Members of this list please advise. All point of views are welcome.
I'm not disagreeing with you PA Bear. From talking to many people
about this topic, there seem to be some different opinions on the
subject by numerous experts. Many MSCE's have steered me towards
sticking with IE5.5 (but using FireFox instead) and Windows 98se for
now if our budget is really that tight.

Thanks.









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