Re: KB908531 (MS06-015) & HP hardware devices - FYI

Adrian UK scribbled:

Max Burke wrote:

Try looking at DSLR(DSL reports) the posts there show that the
problem exists on MANY machines that have NEVER had any HP
software.
Paint shop Pro and Acronis are affected.
I have a machine that has no HP software,my neighbour has 3 PC's
and NO HP software ,they simply cannot be used with this update
installed. Clearly the problem lies with the update,it did not
exist prior to install.

I have both Paintshop pro and Acronis True image on my computer and
I DONT have any problems with this or the other 4 updates I
downloaded and installed on the 13th April....
HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What have I done wrong?????????????????????????
;-)
A little bit of planning, and knowing when and how Microsoft
releases the updates goes a LONNNNGGG WAAAYYY towards avoiding
these problems, even for home users (like myself) with one computer.


WHAT A THOROUGHLY STUPID AND POINTLESS REPLY !!!!!!!!!!!!

No. it isn't. And there's no need to shout.....

FACT....there are thousands of machines worldwide, affected by these
problems that do NOT have HP software.

[OK since you want to play]
FACT....
There are MILLIONS of machines worldwide, NOT affected by these problems that do AND do not have HP software.


FACT.....Internet Explorer,Explorer,Outlook Express ,Paint Shop Pro
,Acronis and dozens of other applications are affected.


FACT
Internet Explorer,Explorer,Outlook Express ,Paint Shop Pro,Acronis and dozens of other applications are NOT affected on every computer that have had the updates installed on them.

FACT....security and IT/PC professionals are having these
problems,companies are having to restore their machines.

FACT....NOT EVERY security and IT/PC professionals are having these problems, NOT ALL companies are having to restore their machines.

In FACT MOST IT/PC professionals and companies are NOT having problems with these updates.

FACT... Microsoft introduced the problem,they must be aware that
people use third party software. It is VERY clear that the updates
were not tested correctly.

FACT... Microsoft *MAY NOT HAVE* introduced the problems, however they are aware that *SOME* people use third party software are having problems. It is NOT clear that the updates
were not tested correctly.

FACT... they are suggesting a VERY unsafe remedy, telling people to
edit the registry.

FACT... they are suggesting a possible remedy, telling people to edit the registry with VERY CLEAR and SIMPLE instructions on how to do that, along with the very clear caveat about editing the registry..
If you dont know what you're doing then DONT DO IT......

FACT....The supposed cure (adding new values to the registry) DOES
NOTHING!

FACT....The fix (adding new values to the registry) DOES work.

If you took a little more time to read around the different sites you
might understand the scale of the problem.

If you took a little more time to read around the different sites you might understand the scale of the problem is NOT as bad as you claim it is.

It is also becoming clear that on some machines the problems are
caused by more than one of the updates.....IE. removing KB908531 does
not "FIX" the fault
and 2 other updates also have to be removed.

The esentail point being that it's on SOME COMPUTERS. It is NOT on every computer that the updates have been installed on, in FACT the majority of computers these updates have been installed on do NOT have the problems complained of by SOME users in this forum.

I am a memeber of a group that is advised of updates @2 weeks prior to
release,
BUT no-one knows the exact content
or what will happen when they are
installed.

Microsoft DOES publish what is in each patch, and what the patch fixes, IN DETAIL. I get several emails listing the patchs being released along with URLs to MS Tech Web where I can study IN DETAIL what the patch is for and what it fixes BEFORE I install it. IOW I can decide what *I* need to do to ensure the patch will work and be safe to install on my computer(s) BEFORE *I* install it. How come you dont know (how to do) that?

Perhaps you can enlighten us as to the mysterious powers you possess
that allows you to PLAN or prepare anything on your machine????

No special powers are needed. Surely you know what is installed on your computers, how it works, and that you do REGULAR 'housekeeping?' Or are your computers a complete mystery to you that you dont have a clue about how and why they work.....

To know what is in the monthly updates that microsoft releases, and (most importantly) if you need to install them, subscribe to the following:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/search.aspx?displaylang=en

Microsoft Security Bulletin Summary for April 2006
Issued: April 11, 2006 , Version Number: 1.0
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms06-apr.mspx

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/update/bulletins/200604.mspx

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/current.aspx

Dont want to rely soley on Microsoft for information about the monthly updates, security risks and advisories?

Try these independant third party subscription email notifications....

http://www.sans.org/newsletters/

http://secunia.com/mailing_lists/

http://secunia.com/

http://www.windowsitpro.com/windowssecurity

http://langa.com/join_langalist.htm

http://www.networkworld.com/

http://www.networkworld.com/newsletters/

http://www.mcafee.com/us/threat_center/default.asp

http://www.eeye.com/html/resources/newsletters/subscribe.html

http://www.trendmicro.com/subscriptions/default.asp



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