Re: PLEASE stop nagging us to reboot!!!!

Jon Davis wrote:
If anyone at Microsoft is reading this, let me add my voice in and
beg you, on my knees, ...

PLEASE stop nagging us to reboot!!

Some of us are advanced users and we do actually happen to know
when the best time to reboot after an update is. But as a matter of
habit I will often get notice the "Update Available" system tray
icon and click on it and let it do its thing--always first
observing what's affected first--but I may need at least another
hour or two of doing other administrative tasks--actually, in my
case, doing development work on things that I know are not affected
by the update I had installed. But every few minutes my work is
inturrupted with a dialog box, "HEY, YOU SHOULD RESTART, WOULD YOU
LIKE TO NOW OR LATER?" I click later and it inturrupts me again. On
and on the cycle goes, sometimes for days if I'm on a system that
cannot rebooted for a while, and I can't roll back. Guys, clicking
on that "Later" button .. that's not "later" that's only a moment.
If I kill the nagging process in the Task Manager, it just goes and
replaces itself!!

This is ludicrous!! Quit assuming that YOUR updates are more
important than OUR productivity. I'll restart whenever I %@^! well
feel like it. Please knock this off!!

Sincerely, wholeheartedly, and very, very annoyed,

Shenan Stanley wrote:
You decided (as an "advanced user and who actually happens to know
when the best time to reboot after an update is") to choose fully
automatic updates instead of just "Download updates for me, but let
me choose when to install them."

Interesting.

If you just set your automatic updates to that - then you have full
control over the process - choosing WHEN to install them and thus -
when to reboot. Some of the updates may have replaced critical
files or need to register certain DLLS or need to replace in-use
files.. So - it's asking you to reboot to finish the installation
process. If you controlled when it installed (which you have
always had the choice to do, as you obviously knew as an advanced
user) - then your problem goes away. After all - what;s the use in
allowing automatic updates fully if you don't plan on rebooting and
letting the patch finish its job - which means whatever security
hole it was patching is likely still open until you do.

Jon Davis wrote:
Uh, no. I clearly stated that I observe the icon on the status bar
and click on it and choose to install the updates when I choose to,
I simply do not want to reboot as soon as the updates are
installed. I install the updates because the icon itself is a nag
and I HATE NAGS.
Wish that was true. But it is not.

Jon Davis wrote:
Before you say it, as much as I hate nags, I want to know about
updates, and I want then pre-downloaded (but not installed) for me.
If I turn automatic updates off, the operating environment gets
stale pretty quick.
I just don't want to be nagged to reboot when I manually allow
updates to install.

Shenan wrote:
I still say that your complaint is about YOU, not the updates.

If you are choosing to install the updates yourself (yes - I
misunderstood that) when you notice they are available - then what
you are telling me that instead of waiting until a time you know
you can reboot - you are choosing to do something you KNOW may
cause you to need to reboot. You are CHOOSING to install the
updates. You can choose to do that anytime.. You can choose to do
that after you have done what you need to do and before you start
something else. You can then reboot.
It seems you choose one thing, knowing it may nag you to reboot -
and instead of just choosing your timing more wisely - you want
someone else to solve your problem for you.

Jon Davis wrote:
My complaint is about the nag. I don't care about the updates; I
care about being inturrupted with dialog boxes that Microsoft
willfully programmed to invoke in your face rather than politely
remind the users with a balloon tip or otherwise.

You do care about the updates or you would not have initiated their install.

You don't care enough to go look once a month manually at
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/, but you cared enough to set Windows XP
up to automatically download them for you and notify you that they were
available.

You are causing the boxes to pop up once you initiated the install.

Think of the hot stove example. You put you hand on the hot stove as a
child. It burned. You pulled away. You decided it was better to not do
that again.

In this case, you must have liked the burning, so you keep putting your hand
back on the stove (when you select to install the updates that you were
notified once were available - and that all that is left of the notification
(unless you log off&on/reboot/etc) before you choose to install is a little
shield sitting innocently (and un-obtrusive) in the system tray.

*You* have to tell it to begin to install. You should know (put your hand
on that stove before) that the system *may* need to be rebooted. *You* tell
it to start the install anyway. You are updating either a core part of the
OS or some part of the OS that many softwares may utilize - and thus they
should not be left "half-done". You are not updating soe single software
package that you can just choose NOT to run until you have had a chance to
reboot. All of these things were *your* choices.

Should the stove maker have to put covers standard on the burners so you
won't keep putting your hand there? And (if you haven't burned all use of
your hands away) - wouldn't you just pull the protective covers off and do
it anyway?

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html


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