Re: Getting at the crux of the update/installer/access denied bs

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it takes me to ud 6

also, I havbe no clue what regmon or filemon are, nor should I need to.


"Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Tom" <wtf@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> So, while having to keep fishing for the answers, at least a direction
>> has
>> been revealed by some of the ms-mvp's here.
>> I think they could have gotten here faster if they would detach
>> themselves
>> from the canned KB*** error #s.
>>
>>
>> So, I have discovered that for all hives (except one), I have four user
>> groups:
>>
>> Administrators (TOMS\Administrators)
>> CREATOR OWNER
>> SYSTEM
>> Users (TOMS\Users)
>>
>> For all hives with these groups listed, except for HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT, all
>> groups have full access.
>> For this group, Users does not have Full Control and I'm apparently
>> logged
>> on as a User, so I cannot do anything with anything that changes those
>> keys.
>>
>> Now, this should mean one of two things:
>> - I was always logged in before as an Administrator
>> - Users had full control
>
>
> I noticed in one of your other posts that you are using the MU agent.
>
> When did you install MU? E.g. if that is when you switched from using
> WUv4 to WUv6 you could be seeing a problem with WUv6 or that agent.
> FYI in both WUv5 and WUv6 the user's account is not the only criterion
> for permissions. So the message you are getting then might be for the
> other account(s) which are being used.
>
> This is the kind of detail which concurrent tracing by FileMon and
> RegMon
> could help clarify.
>
> BTW so far you have given us very few details to work with.
> For example, I haven't seen in all your posts even which OS
> and maintenance level your problem machine is using.
> You seem to be posting from XPsp2 with no other maintenance.
> In that case you were probably using WUv5 earlier so the point
> about permissions for multiple accounts won't be a simple binary
> factor but I still think it is one worth investigating.
>
>
> HTH
>
> Robert Aldwinckle
> ---
>
>
>>
>> "and" a December 13th update changed this.
>> I am not sure which.
>>
>> There is a catch (of course).
>> While in the middle of my 50 hours on the phone with support, I logged in
>> as
>> an Administrator and still had the Access Denied issue with Windows
>> Installer 3.1 after it was forced.
>>
>>
>> So, while I thought I was onto something, I think it's another dead end.
>> :(
>>
>> Unless someone has gotten past this?
>>
>> Any additional clues, input, etc. on these statements?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tom
>>
>>
>
>
>


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