Re: Reinstalling current version of XP Pro with legal Product Key
- From: krgifford <krgifford@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 13:49:05 -0800
Thanks for the explantion, it kind of make sense to me. But for practical
purpose, when I want to obtain upgrades and fixes from Microsoft Update, will
having the OEM Product Key tell Microsoft Update that I own a unique license
of XP Pro even though it's from Dell, and will let be get the updates?
If not, can I get a copy of XP Pro Full Version on eBay (see at
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7193585482&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1)
, and will this license make it all legal in the eys of Microsoft?
Thanks, Kerry.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"gw" wrote:
> The construction of the key itself will tell if you have OEM or Retail. The
> various different licenses have different rules, restrictions, and upgrade
> paths.
>
> Trying to use the OEM key with a bootleg copy of XP is still *legally*
> illegitimate. The Dell OEM copy of XP was sold exclusively to be used with
> Dell hardware. Any other use of the software or the key is invalid.
> Therefore, you do not *legally* have a valid product key to use with a
> non-Dell computer.
>
> Keep in mind that you do not *own* Windows, and never will. You own a
> license to install and operate a copy of the software, within the boundaries
> of the EULA. Purchasing a full retail version of XP gives you the legitimate
> right to install the software into a new computer, as long as it is removed
> from the old one. An OEM copy is tied to a particular machine for life. Once
> that machine is dead, so *legally* is that copy of Windows.
>
> "krgifford" <krgifford@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:96427CF2-5EA9-482F-A9A6-45C9DED73C07@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Okay, I understand what you're saying. Now I'm just curious. Where is
> > this
> > knowledge or intelligence located or stored that keeps an OEM Product Key
> > from working on a non-Dell computer booting with Microsoft Full Version
> > copy
> > of XP Pro (although not legal)? How does the operating system and the two
> > copies of XP "know" that I have an illegitimate copy of XP, and therefore
> > refuse to work together and allow me to insert a legal Product Key? Just
> > thinking out loud.
> >
> > Any rate, I finally traced my payment method and found that I paid using
> > Amex card. Going to their website, I learned that they have "online fraud
> > protection" on the card. Called them, and they agreed to credit the
> > payment
> > back to my account, and they will contact the company (if that's possible
> > now). So it looks like I'm not out of the $$ after all this headaches,
> > emails, discussion group and visiting other websites relating to this
> > particular problem.
> >
> > Again, thanks for your help. I just wish the knowledge of this "OEM
> > problem" was available before I bought, and available to other people to
> > possibly prevent them from being conned too.
> >
> > Thanks, Kerry.
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >
> > "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> No, it won't work. An OEM Product Key is not interchangeable
> >> with a non-OEM version of Windows XP. It certainly will not
> >> work with an illegitimate copy of XP!
> >>
> >> --
> >> Carey Frisch
> >> Microsoft MVP
> >> Windows - Shell/User
> >> Microsoft Community Newsgroups
> >> news://msnews.microsoft.com/
> >>
> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> "krgifford" wrote:
> >>
> >> | Drats!
> >> |
> >> | I haven't got an email from the company, and I also checked to see if
> >> they
> >> | are still selling on eBay. They are nowhere to be found, and
> >> apparently,
> >> | they are no longer a member. I got a sinking feeling that I'm not
> >> going to
> >> | get anywhere thru them.
> >> |
> >> | I've got an idea. I current have a full version of XP Pro, and I
> >> learned
> >> | afterwards that it is the illegit one. Can I use this CDROM to do an
> >> | upgrade/repair, and when prompted for the Product Key Code I would
> >> punch in
> >> | the Key from the Dell OEM CDROM? Will this work?
> >> |
> >> | Thanks, Kerry.
> >> | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> |
> >> | "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:
> >> |
> >> | > A Dell Reinstallation CD requires a Dell motherboard...period.
> >> | > It will not work with a generic ASUS motherboard.
> >> | >
> >> | > --
> >> | > Carey Frisch
> >> | > Microsoft MVP
> >> | > Windows - Shell/User
> >> | > Microsoft Community Newsgroups
> >> | > news://msnews.microsoft.com/
> >> | >
> >> |
> >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> | >
> >> | > "krgifford" wrote:
> >> | >
> >> | > | Well, actually I purchased this Dell OEM CDROM from a third party
> >> on ebay.
> >> | > | And my computer is home built using an ASUS motherboard. Are you
> >> still saying
> >> | > | that I need to talk to Dell?
> >> | > |
> >> | > | Today I sent email to this company where they sold this XP Pro on
> >> ebay. I'm
> >> | > | hoping that they have answers or I'm going to be demanding my money
> >> back.
> >> | > |
> >> | > | Thanks for the reply.
> >> | > |
> >> | > | Kerry
> >
>
>
>
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