Re: Latest Windows Update



"Lawrence Garvin [MVP]" wrote:

> And the key word here, is /SOME/.
>
> In fact, I also had a problem installing KB902400, but not yet any issues at
> all with KB896688, though originally I did think it was that patch that
> caused my problems. However, I later determined that my problem was caused
> with issue on /my/ machine.
>
> General rule of diagnostics.. if the new software causes problems on /every/
> machine, it's probably the new software. If the new software causes problems
> on /some/ machines, it's probably something on those machines.
>
> Now.. the question is... what has priority.
>
> Should third party products "work nicely" with the Microsoft Operating
> System (including /FIXES/ released by Microsoft), or should Microsoft be
> expected to "work nicely" with every third party product, including those
> that are implementing something incorrectly - or, perhaps even, actually
> using the 'bug' that is being fixed?
>
> Personally, I think the third party products have an obligation to play nice
> with the operating system they're installed on, and it doesn't matter what
> operating system it is -- Windows, Unix, Linux, OS/2, OS/X, or whatever.
>
> If the OS 'fixes' something that's broken, then it's the responsibility of
> the third party products who don't work with the 'fixed' software, to get
> themselves fixed.
>
> There's been a general premise around for eons that when installing updates
> to the operating system you will need to disable all 'monitoring' products,
> and close all applications prior to installing the updates. I'm continually
> amazed that for as long as this 'advice' has existed, there are still
> people, today, who don't follow it, and then get annoyed when their update
> failed to install properly.
>
> "OneRound" <OneRound@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:3A402E8E-BE16-440B-92BC-CE5930878C46@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > i'm glad your updates went well, and your friends.
> > but the fact is, and it's undeniable, the latest microsoft patch causes
> > problems for some users. i'm surprised the arn't more problems with
> > microsoft
> > update patches given the near infinate possible combinations of
> > software/hardware setups out there. i'm not trying to slag off microsoft,
> > infact i think they do quite a good job of addressing problems once
> > descovered, but that doesen't change the fact that the last update patch
> > was
> > buggy. microsoft have addmitted as much here
> > http://windows.czweb.org/show_article.php?id_article=191
> >
> > could you please forward that special download link ms gave you. ;-)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Alias" wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "OneRound" <OneRound@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
> >>
> >> > in this forum alone the have been about 30 odd posts with people having
> >> > roughly the same problems, all related to the same patch and when the
> >> > patch
> >> > was removed all was well.
> >>
> >> Not me. I downloaded the patch onto three computers, one with Spanish XP
> >> Home, one with Spanish XP Pro and one with English XP Pro. Do you think
> >> somehow MS likes me more than you and gave me a special download that
> >> works
> >> only for me?
> >>
> >> > yes virus software was disabbled i also tried downloading not using
> >> > windows
> >> > update and installed it with no other software running. same problem.
> >> > patch was made by ms for an ms operating system so it's an ms problem
> >> > !!!!!
> >>
> >> OK, explain why I didn't have any problems, then, smart ass. As far as I
> >> can
> >> tell, it's you that's having the problems so it is therefore YOUR
> >> problem.
> >> Unless and until you realize that and stop putting the blame on MS, who
> >> is
> >> not to blame, you will not solve your problems. I know ten other people
> >> who
> >> had no problems either.
> >>
> >> Alias
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Alias" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> "OneRound" <OneRound@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> >> news:D581C820-B20F-4F72-A88C-9CC5387C6796@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> >i also had user account issues after installing the latest ie update.
> >> >> > when i tried to access the user accounts it said error wrong number
> >> >> > of
> >> >> > arguments or invalid property assignments.
> >> >> > also had active-x and other problems
> >> >> > uninstalling it was only fix i could find
> >> >> > is microsoft going to hold it's hands up and find a soloution ?
> >> >>
> >> >> If it was a problem with MS, everyone would have the problems you are
> >> >> having. I am not. On three computers in two different languages. Did
> >> >> you
> >> >> disable your anti virus' auto scan before attempting to install the
> >> >> updates?
> >> >>
> >> >> Alias
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Lawrence Garvin [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Jon... this behavior is symptomatic of the profile or user hive of
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> registry being corrupted during the power off process.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> You should be able to retrieve Favorites, My Documents, etc. from
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> old
> >> >> >> profile and copy them into the new profile, but it's not really
> >> >> >> worth
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> effort to try to 'repair' it. (Though it appears you already did.)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> But, having said that, and noting that you traced the problem to a
> >> >> >> corrupted
> >> >> >> file table on the hard drive -- which is usually an indication of a
> >> >> >> /hardware/ failure -- what motivates you to blame Microsoft? First
> >> >> >> you
> >> >> >> need
> >> >> >> to understand the /cause/ of your problem, before pointing fingers.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> In your case, you have reasonable indication to suggest it's a
> >> >> >> hardware
> >> >> >> failure -- and if you rebuilt the system on the same hard drive,
> >> >> >> I'll
> >> >> >> bet
> >> >> >> you have the same problem within a couple of weeks.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> But the problem can also occur if somebody poweres down the machine
> >> >> >> prematurely, resulting in corruption of the registry, which is
> >> >> >> written
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> disk during the powerdown.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Jon Wojtowicz" <Jon Wojtowicz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> news:EA6D631E-DD8A-4DB2-8AA5-4DC6CD1C0CE1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> >> > My wife applied the latest update last Friday. After the required
> >> >> >> > reboot
> >> >> >> > it
> >> >> >> > said her profile was unavailable and that the default profile
> >> >> >> > would
> >> >> >> > be
> >> >> >> > used.
> >> >> >> > After the message it simply displayed an empty screen. Upon
> >> >> >> > restart
> >> >> >> > of
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > computer all that would happen is a disk read error.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Using a data recovery tool on the drive it appeared the file
> >> >> >> > table
> >> >> >> > was
> >> >> >> > corrupt. Needless to say I spent my weekend recovering files and
> >> >> >> > reinstalling
> >> >> >> > Windows.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > <rant>
> >> >> >> > I feel Microsoft should have done a much better job of testing
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > patch.
> >> >> >> > This situation seams to getting worse as time goes on. What ever
> >> >> >> > happened
> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> > software QA? You would think an organization with so much money
> >> >> >> > would
> >> >> >> > be
> >> >> >> > able
> >> >> >> > to hire decent programmers not go for the cheapest as it appears
> >> >> >> > they
> >> >> >> > have.
> >> >> >> > </rant>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
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