Re: Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express 6 Service Pack 1 (KB837009)

"Ron Jenner" <jenner_ron@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:e7%23xfUnNFHA.3928@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Robert:
>
> I uninstalled 823353 I could not fine 887797 on the computer.
>
> I then went back to windows update and it installed 837009. For the first
> time 837009 now shows in the add/remove window. However, 887797 did not
> appear in the windows update when I returned after installing 937009.


I'm not sure it will. 887797 is not a security update.
You may have to get it via the Windows Update Catalog.
However, first you will have to reinstall its pre-requisite, 823353.

<title>Description of the cumulative update for Outlook Express (KB887797)</title>
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;887797

<quote>
<b>Note</b> Before this update is made available to you
on the Windows Update Web site, you must install
cumulative security update 823353.
</quote>


Even 823353 which is a security update is only rated Moderate
so you may not see it offered with a very high profile either.


Use the Security Bulletin Search Tool to confirm this information
if you like:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/current.aspx


Did you install updates from the Security Updates CD?
I suspect that that is where you could have been seeing
the modules for this update level. It would be interesting
to know what versions of the modules you actually had
but unless you saved that information before doing the
uninstall I'm not sure if it will have been recorded somewhere.
If you're interested you might try looking for a log file made
by your uninstall and see if it gives any sign of the module
version before it is replaced.


>
> I am NOT recommending anyone else do this because I had no idea what I was
> doing. I am running 98 ES and I still seem to be missing 887797 and 823353,
> but I do appear to have 837009.
>
> Any comments of suggestions cheerfully accepted. But it would be better to
> send them to my email address as well as the group because this is my first
> time in a group and I might not be able to get back here to find them.

You could try using the notification feature of the Microsoft web
interface to newsgroups or just return to this site periodically:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?query=jenner&dg=microsoft.public.windowsupdate&cat=en-us-ms-winxp&lang=en&cr=US&pt=&catlist=B0DE109D-10E1-4C3C-BCC9-8EB7A22FC6A0&dglist=&ptlist=&exp=&sloc=en-us

(web interface search for
jenner
)


HTH

Robert
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> "Ron Jenner" <jenner_ron@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:eqoPTumNFHA.3380@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Robert:
>> I am running 98 SE having the same problem only I have no idea what you
> are
>> talking about as to finding the regression or expanding what ever. Can
> you
>> tell me where to find out how to do this. I am having the same problem
> and
>> have been for a couple of weeks .
>>
>> I am going to uninstall the two updates you suggested to see if that
> helps.
>> You are way beyond me in this discussion, but I do need help.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Ron
>> "Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:eAFfqYbNFHA.604@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > "Home User" <Home_User@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> > news:114mqf1hmc5v140@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >I checked out the info relative to Microsoft Security Bulletin
> MS04-018:
>> > > Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express (823353). It states
>> Windows
>> > > Millennium Edition is not critically affected by any of the
>> vulnerabilities
>> > > that are addressed in this security bulletin. Question: Is it still
> your
>> > > recommendation to expand Security Update Information and Outlook
> Express
>> 6
>> > > SP1 for Windows XP, Windows XP SP1, Windows 2000 SP3, Windows 2000
> SP4,
>> and
>> > > Windows NT 4.0 SP6a to see the file manifest? Would it even be
> possible
>> to
>> > > check on the versions of *all* those modules listed, since it doesn't
>> apply
>> > > to Windows ME? I'm puzzled...
>> >
>> > Definitely. It is a list of modules and they are modules which you
> have.
>> > The versions of those modules that you have will indicate to us what
>> > update you have applied. If it is as I suspect that your case is
> similar
>> > to Joann's one of those modules will be regressed to a version which is
>> > pre-837009 and that is the reason that you are getting that update
>> > continually reoffered. Then what would happen is that it couldn't be
>> > applied because you already have a superseding update applied:
>> > 823353 + 887797.
>> >
>> > BTW if your msinfo32 tool is at all similar to XP's you may find
>> > that using its list of loaded modules is the easiest way to compile
>> > your version of that list. E.g. in XP I can open the tool at that
> list
>> > by Run... (e.g. Win-R and enter:) msinfo32 /category
>> SWEnvLoadedModules
>> > Then the contents of that list operates as a standard multiple selection
>> > list. E.g. select an element and copy it to ClipBoard with Ctrl-c
>> > or select several elements by pressing a the Ctrl- key each time
>> > one is selected and then copy the combined selection. Etc.
>> >
>> > If you'd rather not bother collect the necessary diagnostics
>> > which prove the reason for your problem you could guess
>> > that the reason is understood (as explained above) and then
>> > just uninstall the above two updates (at least) in the hope that
>> > doing that would create a more consistent set of those modules.
>> > (E.g. in the event that the hypothetical regressed module was
>> > one of the ones which was updated by either of those updates
>> > uninstalling them would restore the previous version of it
>> > which would likely be a non-regressed version. So far AFAIK
>> > nobody has a theory as to why so many people seem to have
>> > regressed versions of one of more of those modules.)
>> >
>> >
>> > HTH
>> >
>> > Robert
>> > ---
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>


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