Re: Windows Genuine Advantage

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From: Pat Walters [MSFT] (a-patwal_at_online.microsoft.com)
Date: 02/04/05


Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 16:48:14 -0800


"Mike Brannigan [MSFT]",

This is a brilliant post, and I would like to add to it, just a little bit.
Mike mentions that we offer licensing terms to various classes of user, such
as a student, charities, etc. What is amazing about some of these programs
is the access to our software! For example:

An adult decides to take a night-class in basic programming in either C# or
VB.NET at their local community college, and that college is enrolled in the
Microsoft Developer Network Academic Alliance program. Under this license,
all programming students have access to *all* *current* Microsoft software.
That's right. For the cost of attending a community college class, and with
permission of the particular college department chair, the "student" may
install unlimited single user licensed copies of Windows XP Professional,
Visual Studio .NET 2003 Academic Edition, Microsoft Office System 2003, etc,
and every other program "necessary" to be productive in a learning
environment for NO additional cost--when if that same individual were to
order those first few products from a leading computer products website, it
would cost $1837.84 before taxes. Here is how that figure breaks out:
Microsoft Windows XP Professional with SP2: $ 299.00
Microsoft Visual Studio .NET Professional Edition: 1138.85 (Academic is
identical, and has a bit more)
Microsoft Office Standard Edition 2003: 399.99 (Office
Standard is identical to Academic)

There are many job and worker retraining programs, wherein the government
provides funding to let workers attend class and improve their job skills.
Whatever the price is per credit at a local community college, Microsoft is
offering an outstanding and unbelievable bargain to students everywhere. We
will see that the real problem is the deliberate pirate, and the genuine
pain will be very low.

Sincerely,

Pat Walters [MSFT]

"Mike Brannigan [MSFT]" <mikebran@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:Ob3$dysBFHA.2608@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> "Dan" <spamyou@user.nec> wrote in message
> news:OJuHpdpBFHA.1404@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > Thanks for your post Mike and will there be more information for illegal
> > users especially the ones who do not realize they are using illegal
> > software
> > to get legal software. Will a discount be made available for them? In
> > addition, will there be any Microsoft programs to help out the poor and
> > disadvantaged who are using illegal copies? I know companies need to
make
> > money in order for our capitalistic society to work but I still think we
> > need
> > to help the less fortunate. Thanks in advance and I appreciate any
> > response
> > and value the response(s) greatly.
>
> Dan,
>
> (the follow addresses the issue from the perspective of a purchaser of a
> pirate copy without knowledge of that piracy - not the deliberate piracy)
>
> The current situation is that if an when you find out you have an illegal
> copy of Windows XP that was installed on your PC without your knowledge
> (preinstalled by the seller etc) then you need to address this with them.
> If you cannot resolve this issue with them then as you have no right to
use
> that product you must purchase a full copy of Windows XP to legitimize
your
> system if you wish to continue to use that product.
> We currently do not offer discounts as this would be akin to you buying a
> stolen car without your knowledge and then expecting the manufacturer to
> allow you to buy one for a reduced price once your use of stolen goods was
> revealed.
> It is very important that anyone using Windows or buying a PC with Windows
> preinstalled or supplied with it ensures that they are legitimate.
> We make this information available at http://www.howtotell.com/ and
> http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/default.mspx
>
> We make no distinction between social status or financial capabilities in
> this matter. We offer Windows under various programs and licensing terms
to
> various classes of user (students, charities etc). Microsoft has engaged
in
> a number of projects to assist in PC awareness and access for more
> disadvantaged sectors of various communities.
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike
> --
> Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights
>
> Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions, please use these
> newsgroups
>
> "Dan" <spamyou@user.nec> wrote in message
> news:OJuHpdpBFHA.1404@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > Thanks for your post Mike and will there be more information for illegal
> > users especially the ones who do not realize they are using illegal
> > software
> > to get legal software. Will a discount be made available for them? In
> > addition, will there be any Microsoft programs to help out the poor and
> > disadvantaged who are using illegal copies? I know companies need to
make
> > money in order for our capitalistic society to work but I still think we
> > need
> > to help the less fortunate. Thanks in advance and I appreciate any
> > response
> > and value the response(s) greatly.
> >
> > "Mike Brannigan [MSFT]" <mikebran@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:ehwz%23lmBFHA.2012@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> > : "Dan" <spamyou@user.nec> wrote in message
> > : news:eRAsptgBFHA.2540@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > : > There was a PC World article that said Microsoft will allow pirated
> > copies
> > : > of
> > : > XP to be updated via automatic updates as a good will gesture and to
> > help
> > : > keep the Internet safer for everyone.
> > :
> > : I read that but that is only the current position - there is no reason
> > to
> > : assume that as WGA extends we will continue to support the updating fo
> > : obviously pirated/stolen copes of Windows XP.
> > : Illegal users should endeavour to legitimatize their use of Windows XP
> > as
> > : soon as possible
> > :
> > :
> > : --
> > :
> > : Regards,
> > :
> > : Mike
> > : --
> > : Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]
> > :
> > : This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> > : rights
> > :
> > : Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions, please use these
> > : newsgroups
> > :
> > : "Dan" <spamyou@user.nec> wrote in message
> > : news:eRAsptgBFHA.2540@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > : > There was a PC World article that said Microsoft will allow pirated
> > copies
> > : > of
> > : > XP to be updated via automatic updates as a good will gesture and to
> > help
> > : > keep the Internet safer for everyone.
> > : >
> > : > "Mike Brannigan [MSFT]" <mikebran@online.microsoft.com> wrote in
> > message
> > : > news:uG4mD7ZBFHA.3976@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > : > : "Vagabond Software" <carlfenley-X-@-X-san.rr.com> wrote in message
> > : > : news:eoHTf0ZBFHA.2112@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > : > : "Tom Penharston" <thinkpersuasion@netscape.net> wrote in message
> > : > : news:1106959280.619986.218910@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > : > : >
> > : > : > Windows Genuine Advantage
> > : > : > http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1754886,00.asp
> > : > : >
> > : > : > Instead of debating the merits of Genuine Advantage I'm writing
> > this
> > : > : > post to get advice on configuration steps for brand new
computers
> > once
> > : > : > the initiative starts.
> > : > : >
> > : > : >
> > : > :
> > : > : >Keeping in mind that known and confirmed pirated copies will
still
> > be
> > : > : >freely >updated through Automatic Update...
> > : > :
> > : > : Why do you believe that pirated copes will be updated by Automatic
> > : > (Windows)
> > : > : Update.
> > : > : The point of WGA is to ensure that only genuine legal Windows
> > machines
> > : > have
> > : > : access to our updates.
> > : > :
> > : > :
> > : > : --
> > : > :
> > : > : Regards,
> > : > :
> > : > : Mike
> > : > : --
> > : > : Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]
> > : > :
> > : > : This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no
> > : > : rights
> > : > :
> > : > : Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions, please use
these
> > : > : newsgroups
> > : > :
> > : > : "Vagabond Software" <carlfenley-X-@-X-san.rr.com> wrote in message
> > : > : news:eoHTf0ZBFHA.2112@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > : > : "Tom Penharston" <thinkpersuasion@netscape.net> wrote in message
> > : > : news:1106959280.619986.218910@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > : > : >
> > : > : > Windows Genuine Advantage
> > : > : > http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1754886,00.asp
> > : > : >
> > : > : > Instead of debating the merits of Genuine Advantage I'm writing
> > this
> > : > : > post to get advice on configuration steps for brand new
computers
> > once
> > : > : > the initiative starts.
> > : > : >
> > : > : >
> > : > :
> > : > : Keeping in mind that known and confirmed pirated copies will still
> > be
> > : > freely
> > : > : updated through Automatic Update...
> > : > :
> > : > : Your concerns seem a bit unfounded. Any home user that is behind
> > even
> > a
> > : > : mediocre broadband router is plenty safe for the purpose of
> > automatic
> > : > : updates. On the other hand, any home user directly connected to
the
> > : > : Internet without a router is playing worm-roulette regardless of
> > whether
> > : > or
> > : > : not they patch online or offline.
> > : > :
> > : > : I imagine the same is true for domain networks. What business has
> > : > domain
> > : > : client computers in the DMZ?
> > : > :
> > : > : carl
> > : > :
> > : > :
> > : >
> > : >
> > :
> > :
> >
> >
>
>


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