Re: Another problem with KB825732

From: Timothy Madsen (timothy_madsen_at_bigfoot.com)
Date: 04/22/04


Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 14:58:47 -0400

Scott,
Although I understand where you are coming from, it is not reasonable for an
objective observer NOT to agree that this current situation is not normal.
Granted, the windows update KB835732 does not cause problems with all
computers - but it is clearly causing problems with ENOUGH computers that
both Microsoft and the appropriate MVPs should be able to agree - that
something is wrong here.

So far, the responses I have seen from the MVPs in response to this
"KB835732" issue - have generally been the type of advice that is given to
non-techies - which in this case is far from helpful and is probably what is
causing Agent_C (and quite a few other posters) to be blowing off a bit of
steam. Perhaps it would be possible to make the leap of faith that ALL of
the problems being reported in regard to KB835732 - are in fact NOT ALL
caused by user error.

Just a thought.

Tim.

"Scott Harding - MS MVP" <scrockel@**NO_SPAM**hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23gIk19IKEHA.2884@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Give me a break. My machines aren't affected by this and none of my
clients
> have had any issues. Is there a possible problem? Maybe. Is it happening
to
> everyone? No. Does something occur almost everytime a patch is released?
> Typically ;) Did you test this before rolling it out to the network? No.
Did
> I test this before rolling it out to my network? No. I use SUS services
and
> this is done automatically. Have I been lucky? Maybe but I also do not use
a
> lot of specialty software in my environment and have never had issues.
> Anyways, Agent_C, MVP's do not work for MS typically and do this on our
own
> to help with issues and also to learn from these newsgroups. If you don't
> like the advice please do not come here. Get a local consultant or someone
> with more technical knowledge than yourself. There is certainly no need to
> bag on people helping out here because we are all in the same boat.
> Sometimes these issue are totally related to your environment and basic
> troubleshooting is in order and a lot of times some issues are just too
> complex and there are too many details and unknowns for anyone to help in
a
> newsgroup.
>
> Now for some ideas on the problem for Dan.
>
> How are these drives being mapped? Login scripts? Local mappings?
>
> Are wildcards used in the scripts? Does this affect a machine that does
not
> have this CAD software installed?
>
> What kind of blue screen errors are you getting when rebooted after a
failed
> install?
>
> Are these users local admin? Does it happen to every user that logs in to
> these systems?
>
> Does this only occur on this one particular drive mapping? Do different
> drive mappins to other machines have the same results?
>
>
> --
> Scott Harding
> MCSE, MCSA, A+, Network+
> Microsoft MVP - Windows NT Server
>
>
> "Agent_C" <Agent-C-hates-spam@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:20df5aaa.0404220535.700e1603@posting.google.com...
> > "Dan" <danielfeldman@pdd.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:<ORpEtCFKEHA.3304@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>...
> > > Hi...
> > >
> > > I'm not here to insult Microsoft or any of the hard working MPV's.
[...]
> >
> > It wouldn't be my propensity either, but some criticism of Microsoft
> > and their MVP's may be in order. This Hot[fix?](KB825732)is damaging
> > computers all over the world... has been for over 6 days... and
> > Microsoft has yet to issue an acknowledgement, or fix.
> >
> > Even the most cursory research would reveal this, but the MVP's (Most
> > Valuable Pinheads?) seem to be the *least* aware and are offering the
> > most convoluted advice.
> >
> > A_C
>
>



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