Re: upgrading a Citrix server -- need comments

ToddAndMargo wrote:
Hi All,
Any word of wisdom to share? Is there a better
way to do this?

Many thanks,
-T

news wrote:
> HI,
> I went through same thing a few months ago.
> citrix still has better performance over terminal server!
>
> We use citrix with it's secure gateway (free version - software based).


I was going to put it behind iptables. Opinion?


> If you have the budget and user quantity to warrant it, you can get the
> citrix gateway appliance.
>
> How many users do you need to provide this for?

10. Eventually 20 max


>
> What I hate about windows servers is after a few years they
> get corrupt!
> Performance gets very slow/poor. You can spend hours or days fixing
> that or it's just easier to erase and reinstall. Ah - job security!
> Thank you microsoft!


I have put together several Windows servers. Even with the best
hardware, they are still pieces of crap. But the idiots at Intuit
will not port Quick Books to Linux, so crap it is.

>
> these days you have vmware or cloning so it doesn't take that long to
> rebuild a system but it still sucks!
>
> What I like to do is use vmware server running on linux as the base
> system. From there you install your windows system and you're ready.
> When the windows system is setup correctly you do a snapshot.
>
> Linux isn't so prone to corruption like windows - over the long run it's
> much more stable so it makes for a great base system. This benefit
> doesn't happen with windows systems.

I do this at my office. My base system is CentOS 5.2 (Linux)
and I run XP, Vista, ReactOS, Bart PE, and Ubunto off
of Virtual Box. Store all my data off on Linux where I can
back up everything (dump & restore). And, have a professional
grade file system that journals. I make snap shots too.

The only draw back is that the guest OS's can be slow.
Really, REALLY slow when it comes to Vista (speaking
of pieces of crap).

Virtual Box only uses one core. My serer will support up
to eight cores -- which would be wasted on Virtual Box.

How are you doing on the performance hit?


> If you can get the money for using the vmware software as the base OS,
> that would be the best! I do this for sites with multiple
> locations/servers.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Oskar
>

VMware sounds like it will substitute for Terminal Service/Citrix.
Run one Windows 2008 server and the VMware clients can use
the 2008 server like Citrix. I have not been able to confirm this.

When you say "vmware software as the base OS", do you mean
Linux host/Windows guest or is there a version of VMware
that is its own host OS?

Confused,
-T
.

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