Re: Local Settings Folder within Roaming Profiles

You might want to take a look at using Login Consultant's Flex Profile kit
which allows one to persist users settings from session to session while
using a local mandatory profile. THe also have a True Control Template for
GPO that allows redirection of more directories than what are addressable by
default in GPO.

If you need a supported commercial product to do this, our virtual access
suite does this.

--
Patrick C. Rouse
Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
SE, West Coast USA & Canada
Quest Software, Provision Networks Division
Virtual Client Solutions
http://www.provisionnetworks.com


"lozza" wrote:

Hey Lanwench,

Thats excellent, thanks for the confirmation. I havent got an issue just
yet,am trying to do some foward planning, for this whole limiting size of
profiles issues that we are faced with. Thanks for being so thorough with
your answers. the very fact its volatile data and the important stuff is
directly under THE Application Data folder (which is redirected) explains it
to me... and the fact you have probably, as an MVP, seen many many more TS
applications than me and never had problem when this folder wasn't available
on another machine, gives me confidence, thats its unlikely i'll break
anything

So, thanks again...

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:

lozza <lozza@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Lanwench,

I like your thorough answering style, thanks man! :)

No problem, lady. ;-)

So the final
question for me would be if this is local to every machine, as
implied by the name of the folder, then... what kind of real world
application stuff is stored here?

Um - lots of stuff. Temp files, temp internet explorer files, Outlook cache
files, etc.

any examples would be great. And
also would this cause problems for roaming users, i.e they set up a
kind of application environment on one server, and then when they log
onto other (via Load balanced approach) servers, these settings
stored in Local Settings will all be lost,

Load balancing doesn't really enter into it, and I've never had a problem
with anything important in that folder which wasn't available on another PC.

aren;t application
settings the important thing here when we talk about roaming
profiles?

Yes - whether roaming, or TS, or local, Application Data is where the
important stuff generally lives.

I guess i'm really confused as what this folder is actually
used for...

Depends on the apps you run, but mostly it's volatile data and not very
important. I can't find a page with a description of all the profile
folders, sorry. I really wouldn't worry about this too much - unless you
have problems, in which case you should post back in a new message with the
specifics of them so we can try to help.


Thanks much...

Hope this helps. :)


Lozza

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:

lozza <lozza@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hey Guys,

My dev setup: 2x TS Servers hooked into Session Directory. Load
Balancing achieved via DNS Round Robin.

Roaming User profiles being
used

Do not use roaming profile paths for your TS users - you need to
specify a different Terminal Services profile path. You can keep
your folder redirection the same, but you have to use an entirely
different folder tree for roaming profiles. E.g.,

Regular roaming profiles: \\server\profiles%
TS profiles: \\server\tsprofiles$

and pointed to NAS device. Profile is stored on
\\NAS\Profile\%UsernameOfEachUser%

My Issue: I;ve been told to limit profiles to a max of 40MB.
Desktop/Start Menu/Application Data/My Documents all redirected to
their own folder on the NAS. i.e.
\\NAS\RedirectedMyDocuments\%username%,
\\NAS\RedirectedDesktop\%username%,
\\NAS\RedirectedStartMenu\%username%,
\\NAS\RedirectedApplicationData\%username%.... This I believe
prevents the size of these folder counting towards the profile size
as these folder are not redirected to the Roaming Profile Path...So,
First Question, Is my understanding correct here?

Yes.



So, one folder that is starting to take space is the Local Setting
Folder on each user user profile. My own profile (which is one of
the smaller ones) for example has:

C:\Documents and Settings\lozza\Local Settings\Application
Data\Microsoft\Terminal Server Client\Cache there is a file called
bcache22.bmc and this itself is 22MB

Not sure what this file is for or how it can be cleared down... any
ideas would be great? other users have varying sizes upto 100MB
under other folders located under Local Settings... Okay, so you
say, but this folder by default does not roam with the user

Of course. It's "local settings."

or in turn other
folders can also be excluded from the roaming profile... that fine
with me, but also confusing:

So, if this is the case... When a user logs off does this folder
(Local Settings) stay on the local machine?

Yes.

(i.e. the directory
structure on the machine will still remain C:\Documents and
Settings\lozza\Local Settings\Application Data\...\...\...\). What
happens if cached copies of profiles are set to delete,

Then the local settings folder data is gone.

is this
folder rebuild everytime the user logs on and any application
related settings are therefore lost?

Yep.

if it does stay on the local machine,
what if the next time a user comes into the cluster and they are
directed to the other server, will not having this folder as roaming
and excluded from the profile, cause user settings to not come
over...

A new one will be created.

Just trying to understand what i;m getting myself in for here...
before I go starting to make changes... I hope this makes sense...

Lozza




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