Re: Software cost of setting up a TS server?

I was not correcting you, but just adding the inevitable monkey wrench of a
TS in an SBS domain.

The first time I looked at a TS licensing document, it was about 40 pages
long. I could hardly believe my eyes.

Regarding whether or not all other Windows servers are covered by SBS CALs,
two years ago there were many differing views. I called MS Licensing about
six times and got differing answers, then one guy argued that the product
use rights document proved it does not cover other servers. I sent about ten
pages of analysis of that document to Art Pettigrue and the lead on the
licensing team, proving that the guy's analysis was based upon his
misinterpretation of the document. Four months later, I received the reply
agreeing with me that it does cover all other Windows servers.

The documentation I sent took me days to compile, but at least they are now
in agreement.

If only we could simplify TS licensing!

Gregg Hill





"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
<lanwench@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Gregg Hill <bogus@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
And just to throw in some more confusion, if the 2003 TS is a member
of an SBS 2000 or SBS 2003 domain, then you would only need TS CALs,
as SBS domains and their SBS CALs cover access to all other Windows
servers in the domain. Additional Windows 2003 CALs for the TS are
not needed IF you have the proper number of SBS 200x CALs.

Gregg Hill

If anyone needs me, I'll be over in the corner, repeatedly bashing my head
into the wall, in an effort to make the voices stop. Licensing drives me
batty. Thanks to all who've corrected me, I think!





"TP" <tperson.knowspamn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hi,

Vera is correct.

In this case it is not a mystery. When logging on to a 2003 server
via TS you must authenticate. Taking a look at the EULA it becomes
clear (it specifically lists authentication as an one of the
examples), excerpted below:

Begin Excerpt

2. CLIENT ACCESS LICENSES ("CALs"). The
Software licensing model consists of an operating system
license and incremental CALs, so that the total cost for
the Software scales with usage. Several CAL types and
licensing modes are available to suit your individual needs.

a. Windows Server 2003 Client Access License ("Windows CAL")
Requirements. In addition to the license for the Server
Software, you must acquire a Windows CAL for each
individual person ("User") or Device that accesses or uses
the Server Software, whether directly or through a
Multiplexing Service (defined below). For example, a
Windows CAL is required for each User or Device that uses
any of the following services of the Server Software:
* authentication services (when user or application
credentials are exchanged between the Server Software
and a User or Device),
* file services (accessing or managing files or disk
storage),
* printing services (printing to a printer managed by the
Server Software), or
* remote access service (accessing the Server from a
remote location through a communications link,
including a virtual private network).

End Excerpt

Additionally, the pricing and licensing page for TS 2003 has always
said that windows CALs are required:

Licensing Terminal Server in Windows Server 2003 R2

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/howtobuy/licensing/ts2003.mspx

-TP

Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] wrote:
Vera Noest [MVP] <vera.noest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I'm pretty sure that you *do* need both server CALs and TS CALs.

Hmm - I didn't think so - it isn't being accessed for
file/print/web. However, as is often mentioned, licensing is a vast
mystery and it's best to call Microsoft directly.





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