Re: User licensing

Hi Vera,

Am unfamiliar with virtual XP clients. Have done a google search and will
read up on them.

Am I correct to think you could have multiple virtual XP sessions running on
a single Server 2003 machine that could be used to run the app, with up to 10
users connecting at once? My goal is to let this small group of concurrent
users run the app, but not the same individuals or same devices.

Apologies for my limited experience, and hope this question makes sense.
Mark

"Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

Per User licenses are per *person*, not per user account. So using
a generic account for all users is not a solution either.

Citrix licensing is per concurrent session, but since Citrix runs
on top of MS Terminal Services, that won't help you either.

Maybe you could setup a couple of (virtual?) XP clients where users
can run this application, and users connect with rdp to those XPs?
That would only cost you the licenses for the XP OS, no TS CALs.

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=?Utf-8?B?TWFya3Vz?= <Markus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote on
13 dec 2007:

Vera,

Yes, this is the only app that will need TS. I guess I
misunderstood roaming users. Couldn't you establish generic
user logins (USER1, USER2, etc.) that could be used by any
employee from any department?

If not, we'll have to forget TS and go with a web app for this
function that can be accessed thru our Intranet. Or maybe there
is someone more reasonable in their licensing that you know of
(e.g., that provides concurrent licensing that would allow a
small app lie this to be accessible to a few staff at a time)?

Thanks again,
Mark


"Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

As TP explained, that's not a valid licensing mode of TS. It's
either per specific user, or per specific device.
I understand that it would become very costly for your specific
requirements, but still, it's what the EULA dictates.

Is this application the *only* application that you plan to
deploy through TS? If so, maybe TS is not the best way to
deploy it. But if the users connect to the TS also to run other
applications, they will need a TS CAL anyway.
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=?Utf-8?B?TWFya3Vz?= <Markus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
on 12 dec 2007 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

TP,

There are just under 3000 employees working in just under
1000 departments. However, this application is small, and
will require no more than 10 of those 3000 people to use the
application at any one time, and probably more like 5 on
average.

Their use would involve less than 10 minutes a day, resulting
in maybe 50 to 100 minutes of actual time logged in each day
across all departments. The login can occur at any
department computer, and each department has an average of 3
computers.

We could not licensse on a per machine basis, since that
would require thousands of licenses and give far more
capability than we need. I thought we could license 10
roaming users. This would allow an employee to log in to add
a record to a database and log out from any one of their
department computers.

Appreciate your help in explaining how this works.

Thanks again,
Mark

"TP" wrote:

Hi Mark,

TS licensing is *not* concurrent. It is either Per Device
or Per User (named employee). Licenses can be reassigned
away from one device/user to another but the reassignment
must be permanent *except* in the case of when you use a
temporary replacement device (in the case of the primary
device needing repair) or a temporary employee (in the case
of a temp worker filling in while an employee is out).

The same is true for Windows CALs if you choose the
Per Device/Per User option for those. Other software have
different licensing requirements, for example, Office is
licensed Per Device.

You should count up the total number of devices and
employees that will be connecting and based on that choose
between Per Device or Per User or a mix of the two. If you
post more information regarding the number of PCs,
employees, employees that need to roam, etc., I will give
you more advice.

Thanks.

-TP

Markus wrote:
I am planning to install Server 2003 and need some advice
on licensing.

My client needs a maximum of 10 concurrent users using an
application. However, they have hundreds of employees, any
one of which could be one of the 10 concurrent users.

On the server side, I understand Server 2003 comes with 5
CALs, so I assume
I will need 5 additional CALs. But am not sure what other
licenses I need.

I read about roaming users, and would assume I need per
user licensing for 10 roaming users, since the 10 users on
any one day could log in from different departments and so
different devices.

Could someone clarify just what licensing I would need for
this configuration.

Thanks for any help you can give,
Mark

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