Re: Terminal Server 32bit /PAE vs 64bit

For the 1508 and 1500 Events, check this:

935649 - Error message when you try to log on to a Windows Server
2003-based terminal server: "Windows cannot load the user's profile
but has logged you on with the default profile for the system"
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=935649

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Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
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"Jerry Alan Braga" <jerry.braga@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote on 14 maj 2007
in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

but windows recommended a 13gb page file, so we set it to none,
reboot in safe mode, defrag entire drive than added page file
fixed at recommended size.

so are you saying that we are actually using all of our 9gb of
memory and that our applications are actually addressing it
because the task manager performance tab never ever cracks 4gb
of memory usage. What is the best way to monitor this stuff as
I have seen thru the task manager performance tab our dl380
dual core 2 cpu G3 server hit 100% cpu for 10 seconds or more at
a time.

we are also running into "the system has reached the maximum
size allowed for the system part of the registry. Additional
storage requests will be ignored." I thought that xp, and 2003
did not have a limit, what could this be as this message is
never logged in the event view just on the console itself.

we also run into userenv errors 1508 SYSTEM
---------
Windows was unable to load the registry. This is often caused by
insufficient memory or insufficient security rights.
DETAIL - Insufficient system resources exist to complete the
requested
service. for C:\Documents and Settings\jacquieb\ntuser.dat
For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

followed by event 1500 "actual user"
--------
Windows cannot log you on because your profile cannot be loaded.
Check that you are connected to the network, or that your
network is functioning correctly. If this problem persists,
contact your network administrator.

DETAIL - Insufficient system resources exist to complete the
requested
service.



I am not sure what these are but I wonder if there are all
related somehow ?



"Jeff Pitsch" <Jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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1) A 32-bit system cannot use more than 4gb of memory without
PAE. PAE is ok but it will cut down on your kernel memory
because it requires more PTE's to handle the extra addressing.
Never EVER use the /3gb switch on a terminal server. Before
any of this though, I would go ahead and do some real
performance monitoring with something other than task manager.
Your problem may not be memory but the fact that you have a
13gb page file. You really shouldn't have anymore than 4gb
tops.

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Jerry Alan Braga wrote:
We currently are running 2 win2003 EE sp2 terminal servers in
an active directory domain that get their romaing profiles for
the TS users from the DC. We are now running into performance
issues (cpu/memory) as it seems from the task manager
performance monitor that we cannot use more than 3.9gb of
memory even though we have 9gb installed and have a 13gb page
file (suggested by windows) and have the /pae switch enabled
in the boot.ini without the /3gb switch.

My question is that does not the /pae along with win2003 EE
give the ability of using up 16gb like it says for our
applications. Our applications are 32bit based an I know
about the 32bit limit of memory addressing but is that not
what the /pae and win2003 EE supposed to address. Or does
64bit win2003 EE actually give you that through the WOW
emulator to 32bit applications.
.

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