Re: Profiles on Terminal Services

I don't know, James, have never done that.
You might be better off switching to an active directory newsgroup,
since this has nothing to do with TS anymore.
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"James" <fake@xxxxxxxxx> wrote on 21 apr 2007 in
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So if I accidently set it to leave folder in new location, then
deleted the group policy, how would I get the files back to the
proper location? Create another GP setting it back to the proper
location?

"Vera Noest [MVP]" <vera.noest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
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Did you run gpupdate after each change in the policy? If not,
it can take awhile before the policy comes into effect.

When you configure folder redirection in a GPO, there's a
"Settings" tab with additional options. The default action
under "Policy Removal" is "Leave the folder in the new location
when policy is removed".

If that is not what you want, you must change that setting to
"Redirect the folder back to the local userprofile location
when the policy is removed"
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"James" <fake@xxxxxxxxx> wrote on 20 apr 2007 in
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To add to this, it seems it is copying the desktop and app
data folder to the local TS, but if you right click on a
desktop file it shows it located on the shared location that i
had redirected it from...any ideas?

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Well in my meddling around I created a GP to redirect desktop
and application data, then deleted that policy, now it seems
the policy is still being enforced...how would I go about
undoing this damage?

"Vera Noest [MVP]" <Vera.Noest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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OK, then we agree that the logon is slow :-)

The desktop? How can that be so big?
Users aren't saving documents to the desktop, are they?
If they are, redirect the desktop to a custom desktop folder
and make it read-only (I'd do that anyway).
User files should only be saved in My Documents, which is
redirected to the users home directory.

Have you tried with a fresh test account, as jeff suggested?
Just to verify that the problem is indeed caused by the size
of the profile.

And how about the EventLog? And the SP level?
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"James" <fake@xxxxxxxxx> wrote on 19 apr 2007:

How would one go about making it smaller?
The desktop and application folders take up most of that
space Slow is 10 minutes to log on

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I agree with Jeff. IMHO, that's a huge profile!
How slow is slow? How many seconds / minutes are we
talking about?
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Jeff Pitsch <Jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote on 19
apr 2007 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

IMHO, that is too big for profiles. What happens if you
start with a fresh profile? does it exhibit the same
behaviour?

James wrote:
The user profiles are only around 50-100megs so size
isn't an issue. We are running SP2.
I've tried enabbling the verbose logging, but it doesn't
seem to be doing anything, do I have to restart the
server for it to take effect perhaps?

"Vera Noest [MVP]"
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Are there any warnings or errors in the EventLog about
profile load or unload errors?

Which SP are you running? SP2 contains a hotfix which
might solve the problem:

899409 - You may experience a 20-second delay when you
try to access a redirected folder by logging on to a
Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1-based computer or to
a Windows XP Service Pack 2- based computer
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=899409

Have you checked the size of the user profiles? Maybe
they are simply too big for a fast logon?

Be sure to limit the disk space for Temporary Internet
Files and exclude them from roaming with the profile.

I would also enable verbose logging of the user
environment, which should show you which part of the
logon process is taken a long time.

221833 - How to enable user environment debug logging
in retail builds of Windows
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=221833

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"James" <fake@xxxxxxxxx> wrote on 19 apr 2007 in
microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

Ok, we are having a problem with slow logons and
logoffs with terminal services
TS servers are running windows 2003 in a Windows 2000
domain.

In Active directory each user is configured under TS
profile to load the home (set to
\\server\home\%userame% and user profile (set to
\\server\profile\%username%)

Group policy is also set with folder redirection for
the My Documents folder Set to:create a folder for
each user under the root path

\\server\home

Do we need to have the \\server\home set in both the
users Active directory TS profile and in group policy,
or just one? Could this be slowing us down?

Should we also be changing any other settings, to help
speed up logon/logoff?


Thanks
.

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