Re: Ternimal Server system requirments



Yeah, I read it. Funny. I've been working with computers for several years
and have many times been looking to get out of this industry altogether.
Problem is, what else to do where I can make this much money starting off.
Especially since this is not what I went to school for. It was something I
kinda backed into.

Enough lamenting on my part. Matt, I'd like to take you up on your offer to
"play" with TS. Contact me offline at thilton@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

"MattShell" <MattShell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Yeah, I can imagine from coming from NT4 what experiences you have had. I
really started getting into Windows in the 2000 days and had limited
experience with running, (more like just praying that tommorow the server
was
still up) NT4. I did limited Terminal Services in 2K, none in NT4 and
most
of my time has been spent with 2k3. I am so exicited because I am going
for
being an MVP (said tounge in check). I like what TS does, and I would say
most of my printers have been pretty mainstream but I did have a few that
were unknown to Windows, and had to hack some weird file to make it work.
That was at my old job, and at my new job I have had better luck. As far
as
new to it, yeah I am newer than you and I don't have NT4 clouding my
vision
to say and that is based on the fact that I am not really that old. I
think
I was in Elementray School when NT4 hit the streets, and maybe younger
than
that.

The main advantage I see to TS and why it really exictes me so much is I
work for a non-profit and people donate us old crappy computers all of the
time. So the only way I see to be able to use the free computers and
still
keep our orginzation where it needs to be as far as technology is TS. All
of
our machines are dumb terminals that simply link up to TS so we are
running
P2 133MHz, with 32MB of RAM running XP to hook up to TS. The good
hardward
(P4 class machines) only run as well as our old P2's hence my excitment.

To Twinstar, if you are even reading as this is a long post :) Even if
you
are not an NPO, you can still utilize old hardware just like us that can
be
picked up on eBay for nothing, garage sales, or auctions. Heck you could
start a communitity "recyling program" for their old machines and take it
as
a tax break I would bet (talk to your accountant first)

"ms support" wrote:

MattShell wrote:
Wow Oskar,

Quite the response, have you had some trouble with TS?

well, let's say I've been doing this a while (since NT4 days).

I've seen windows evolve from expensive piece of garbage to unreliable
piece... to OK.

You're lucky if you haven't had printing problems. Maybe this is just
on win2k3. Even then, windows doesn't load every printer driver out
there.

You're very lucky if you haven't seen application problems on terminal
server. Most IT people (experienced - 10+ years) hear terminal server
and associate it with applications crashing, etc.

Thank you for enthusiasm. You must be new at this or you're doing
something the rest of us don't know about to stay so enthusiastic about
this stuff!

cheers,

Oskar



I would agree with his quotes on the memory and the processors.
Although I
don't know you need two if you get a Core Duo machine. We run with 4
logical
processors at 2.8 as I have stated and that gets the job done very
well.

Everything else, in my opinion, might be more personal experience than
what
is actually the way it is. I have had no problems with printers and I
have
used both network printers and those redirected through the client.
And as
far as applications are concerned, there probably are some that are not
TS
aware, but in my opinon, Window Server 2003 handles them very nicely as
I
have had none that could not be made to work and I have run some
strange
applications on TS in my time.

If you need help just ask, I would be happy to lend a hand, and Oskar,
if
you need help please make a post and lets talk about the problems you
are
having. If I don't know the answer, I bet someone on this board does.

Matt

"news" wrote:

Twinstar wrote:
Hello All,

Newbie here whose been given the task to spec out a server to run
Microsoft
Terminal Server 2003. The company has 22 users and they plan to use
this
server to access their SBS system. Since I've never worked with TS
let alone
installed, I have no clue as to what is recommended.

Any advise is greatly appreciated.

thanks!

Troy


wow,
you need to start reading up quick.

usually, you figure about 150-200mb per user. so for about 20 users,
4gb of ram is a good rule. You have to be careful of what
applications
people want to run on TS, it's not a good idea to run anything on
there.
Please verify if the application works on TS.

Will all 22 be online at the same time? If so, get a strong CPU (2 or
more is very nice). If not, single strong cpu should be fine.

Printing is another headache. I hope you have network printers!

Good luck,

Oskar





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