Re: Using remote desktop and terminal services



Vera,

Thanks and thanks again for all the details. Think all is clear now for me
to go forward.

Mark

"Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

Terminal Services and TS Licensing Service are core components of
Windows 2003 Server. So you don't have to obtain a special trial
version of TS, it's already there on any Windows 2003 Server. You
just install both from Control Panel - Add/Remove programs - Add
Windows components.

And no, you do not have to upgrade your clients to get the rdp
client, it's downloadable for free:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=80111f21-
d48d-426e-96c2-08aa2bd23a49&displaylang=en
Better still, install the client which is included in your Windows
2003 server. You'll find it in
C:\WINDOWS\system32\clients\tsclient\win32\msrdpcli.msi

When you install Terminal Services on a 2003 server, it will allow
you to run without any TS Licensing Server for a period of 120
days. This is called the grace period.
After 120 days, the TS *must* be able to contact a TS Licensing
Server, so you must install that. Then, if you haven't bought any
TS CALs yet, the TS Licensing Server starts to issue temporary
licenses to clients. These temporary licenses last for 90 days.
When the temporary licenses expire, the show is over, meaning that
you then *must* buy and install TS CALs to be able to connect to
your TS.
So that gives you a total period of 120 + 90 days to test and
evaluate Terminal Services.
_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
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=?Utf-8?B?TWFya3Vz?= <Markus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote on
16 nov 2006 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

Vera,

Many thanks for the help and explanation. I see where I can get
a trial versoin of Server 2003 for 180 days. If I already have
XP SP2 Home on the workstations, will I need to upgrade to XP
Pro to get the Remote Desktop client on the workstations?

Just one more - If I get the trial version and wish to test out
the app, sounds like I can install it on one machine and use XP
workstations to test out multiuser capabilities. But am
confused about the Terminal Services Licensing Server TS Cals.
Sounds like I will also need this in order to test out multiuser
access with the app - did I understand that correctly, and do
you know if there is a trial version I can obtain to do my
testing?

Many thanks again for all your help,
Mark

"Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

The whole idea with a Terminal Server is that it functions as a
multi-user workstation.
So your users start their Remote Desktop client on their
workstations (comes with XP, so they probably already have it
installed), and they all connect to the same Terminal Server.
They will all work on the server without being aware of each
other, in totally separated sessions.

Note that setting up a Terminal Server and installing
applications on it is not a trivial task, because of the
multi-user functionality.
For one thing, you must install Terminal Services *before* you
install the application, so if it is already installed on the
server, you'll have to uninstall the application first, then
install TS, then install the application again.
Installing applications for multi-user access must be done
while the server is in "install mode", to guarantee that each
user gets its own private settings.

When you run a Terminal Server for multi-user access, you will
also need to install a Terminal Services Licensing Server, and
buy and install TS CALs on it (the exact requirements depend on
the OS on the clients as well as the workstations).

You might want to do some more reading first:

Checklist: Plan your Terminal Server deployment
http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsServer/en/Library/2ff3d1b1-
1af2-48c8-b266-e10914a593051033.mspx

Technical Overview of Windows Server 2003 Terminal Services
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/techinfo/overview/ter
mse rv.mspx
_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
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=?Utf-8?B?TWFya3Vz?= <Markus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
on 13 nov 2006 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

I have an app that will slow down if run over a WAN, and
would like to use Terminal Services instead. Am a beginner
to this, so hope someone can help here.

My most important question is - If this app is planned to be
used by 5 users, and if I use Terminal Services, does this
mean I will need to run Remote Desktop on the 5 remote user
machines, and also have 5 computers at the server side to
connect to to run the app? Or is there a way for each remote
user to connect to the server directly and run the app
without a computer for each?

Thanks in advance for any ideas on this,
Mark

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