Re: Windows 2000 terminal servers in 2003 domain

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Great!!!! Thank you very much!!!!

Now, I just have to wait for my corporate people to confirm this as they
will not take my word for it and can't seem to confirm it by the Windows
Server 2003 Terminal Server Licensing White paper. They are contacting our
Microsoft Account Manager to get a definitive answer.

Thanks,
Mike


"Vera Noest [MVP]" <vera.noest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:Xns9771D214591D4veranoesthemutforsse@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Yes, it *will* work with your already purchased W2K Per Device TS
CALs.
You can install your existing W2K TS CALs on a 2003 TS Licensing
Server without problems.

The scenario which I tried to describe below is when you need to
purchase *additional* TS CALs. W2K TS CALs are not for sale
anymore. New licenses are always 2003 TS CAL, and you use your
downgrade rights to use them as W2K TS CAL.

In this scenario only, you *must* buy these new licenses as Per
Device, not Per User.

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Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
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"Mike Brearley" <mike_brearleyDONTDOIT@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote on
21 feb 2006 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

edit:

then the 2003 TS license server will successfully issue tokens
to my Win9x and Wyse Winterms *** that are logging into W2K
Terminal Servers *** ?


"Mike Brearley" <mike_brearleyDONTDOIT@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
in message news:eKFuynwNGHA.3272@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
So, in my case, it will not work with my purchsed W2K TS per
device CALs (at least in saying that I can not add those
licenses to a 2003 TS License Server, correct?)

I have Win9x and Wyse Winterms that connect to my terminal
servers.

You're saying to get around this issue, I will need to purchase
Windows 2003 per device TS CALs and then the 2003 TS license
server will successfully issue tokens to my Win9x and Wyse
Winterms?

Thanks,
Mike


"Vera Noest [MVP]" <vera.noest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
in message
news:Xns976DE2418AA8Dveranoesthemutforsse@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Yes. No problem.

The *only* scenario which won't work is this one:
suppose you have W9x or thin clients, which require a
purchased TS CAL when they connect to your W2K Terminal
Server. Also suppose that you need to buy more TS CALs. Since
you cannot buy W2K TS CALs anymore, you have to buy 2003 TS
CALs. Fine, no problem, since the default behaviour of a 2003
TS Licensing Server is to issue a 2003 TS CAL, if no W2K TS
CAL is available (as explained in the White Paper).

BUT: if you made the mistake to buy 2003 *Per User* TS CALs in
this situation, you would have a problem, because the W2K TS
will not be able to use 2003 Per User TS CALs.
But as long as you buy and install Per Device TS CALs, all
will be well.

_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
SQL troubleshooting: http://sql.veranoest.net
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"Mike Brearley" <mike_brearleyDONTDOIT@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote on 17 feb 2006 in
microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

Just to make sure... a Windows 2003 Terminal Server License
Server can have Windows 2000 Terminal Server per Device
Licenses added to it?

Thanks,
Mike


"Vera Noest [MVP]" <Vera.Noest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote in message
news:Xns976DA200DABBEveranoesthemutforsse@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
You are right, and they are wrong, Mike.

A 2003 TS Licensing Server is completely backwards
compatible. It contains the "Existing Windows 2000 per
Device TS CALs" which are issued for free to XP Pro and W2K
pro clients, when they connect to a W2K TS. And it can
handle all types of purchased W2K TS CALs as well.

There is excellent documentation, with lots of examples
about a mixed W2K / 2003 TS Licensing scenario in this White
paper:

Windows Server 2003 Terminal Server Licensing White paper
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/techinfo/overview/
ter ms ervlic.mspx

_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
SQL troubleshooting: http://sql.veranoest.net
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"Mike Brearley" <mike_brearleyDONTDOIT@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote on 17 feb 2006:

Can my current Windows 2000 terminal server licenses be put
on a Windows 2003 terminal server license server to issue
licenses to clients accessing my two w2k ts servers?

My problem is that I am being told by my coporate offices
that I must upgrade my terminal servers to Windows 2003 or
take them offline by March 31st. They are upgrading all
domain controllers to Windows 2003 and they are telling me
that 2003 will not issue 2000 terminal server licenses.

Preferably, I would like a link to a microsoft kb article
that I can point them to, but if you don't have that, any
info would be greatly appriated.

If nothing else, I know I can use Microsoft KB article
239107 to point my terminal servers to a license server
that is on it's own domain or workgroup, right?

Thanks,
Mike


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