Re: Licencing TS via SBS Server = free CALs???

There is one last thing you can do to find out why these clients
can connect (other than some mysterious flaw in the Licensing
Manager): run the TS Client License Dump utility from the Resourcit
Kit.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=9d467a69-
57ff-4ae7-96ee-b18c4790cffd&DisplayLang=en

You run this on the client, with "tsctst.exe /A". It will tell you
the type of license and the LS which issued it. Can you post that
information here?

_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
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"=?Utf-8?B?RnVuQm9iYnk=?=" <FunBobby@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote on 28 aug 2005 in
microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> You would think so, but no, they can connect and receive no
> message like "your licence has expired". All 12 users are
> currently using Terminal Services with expired licences on the
> TS Server, but (seemingly) being licenced via the SBS Server.
>
> I'm as confused as you!
>
> "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> OK, let's continue the thread here.
>>
>> So your clients are *not* issued "full" licenses, they are
>> issued temporary licenses, as can be expected, since you didn't
>> install any purchased TS CALs.
>>
>> Have you tried to connect with one of the clients who have an
>> expired temporary license? I expect that those 12 clients
>> cannot connect anymore.
>>
>> _________________________________________________________
>> Vera Noest
>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
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>>
>> "=?Utf-8?B?RnVuQm9iYnk=?=" <FunBobby@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote on 27 aug 2005 in
>> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>>
>> > Hi TP
>> >
>> > The Terminal Server is set to Per Device.
>> >
>> > Terminal Server licencing shows two servers with the
>> > following details:
>> >
>> > Windows SBS 2003 Server [Activated]: Existing Windows 2000
>> > Server - Terminal Services CAL Token (Per Device). Built-in,
>> > Unlimited, Unlimited, 0
>> >
>> > Windows 2003 Server (Terminal Server) [Deactivated]: Existing
>> > Windows 2000 Server - Terminal Services CAL Token (Per
>> > Device). No entries for any column
>> >
>> > Temporary Licences for Windows Server 2003 - Terminal Server
>> > Per Device CAL Token. Total of 23 tokens issued, 12 of which
>> > have expired by 7 days or more, Quantity of 1 for each Token.
>> >
>> >
>> > I'm as confused as anyone! What I want to ensure is that
>> > there isn't some other kind of gotcha that will occur at some
>> > point in the future, or that whilst this works it is in
>> > contravention of MS licencing.
>> >
>> > Thanks again
>> >
>> >
>> > "TP" wrote:
>> >
>> >> What licensing mode is your Terminal Server set to?
>> >>
>> >> To check the licensing mode:
>> >>
>> >> 1. Logon to your Windows 2003 TS.
>> >> 2. Open up Terminal Services Configuration
>> >> 3. Click on Server Settings on the left
>> >> 4. The licensing mode is listed on the right
>> >>
>> >> What exactly is listed in TS Licensing on your SBS server,
>> >> as well as your TS?
>> >>
>> >> - Open up TS Licensing on both servers, and tell me what
>> >> entries are there, as well as the value for each column
>> >>
>> >> Product, Type, Total, Available, Issued
>> >>
>> >> And then drill-down into each entry to get details
>> >>
>> >> Issued To, Issued On, Expires On, Quantity
>> >>
>> >> Thanks.
>> >>
>> >> -TP
>> >>
>> >> FunBobby wrote:
>> >> > Thanks TP and Vera for the responses.
>> >> >
>> >> > However, I'm still a little confused, and here's why ....
>> >> >
>> >> > When the Terminal Server (Win2003) was set up, I installed
>> >> > TS Licence Manager and it started handing out temporary
>> >> > licences. When our supplier
>> >> > mentioned about SBS licencing I then set up Licence
>> >> > Manager on the SBS 2003
>> >> > server.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Tuesday all the temporary licences expired. But all
>> >> > the systems are
>> >> > still logging in using the Licence Manager installed on
>> >> > the SBS 2003 Server.
>> >> > The systems are assigned full (rather than temporary)
>> >> > licences, but I have
>> >> > bought no TS CALs, simply authorised the SBS Server.
>> >> >
>> >> > Here's the only quote I could find on the process:
>> >> >
>> >> > "For a small organization, it is recommended that one
>> >> > server run Windows
>> >> > Small Business Server and a second server run Terminal
>> >> > Services. To facilitate this and to simplify the licensing
>> >> > requirements for this scenario,
>> >> > Microsoft allows the client-access license (CAL) for
>> >> > Windows Small Business
>> >> > Server to satisfy the CAL requirement for Windows Server
>> >> > on the second server."
>> >> >
>> >> > (http://h71028.www7.hp.com/ActiveAnswers/downloads/WP_Termi
>> >> > nal _Server_ProLiant_Servers.pdf page 10)
>> >> >
>> >> > Any ideas why this works and if it is legal?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks again.
.

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