Re: Terminal Services 2003 temporary licenses issue

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Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 12:39:24 -0800

You do need a license for the server, but that often comes with
the OS itself (but best to check). You don't need a TS CAL for the
server itself.
You also need a normal 2003 server CAL for each client (also Per
User or Per Device). Those may or may not be present (if there are
more 2003 servers in your network than only this TS, then the
clients probably already have a 2003 server CAL. But best to check
this as well).

When the temporary licenses expire, the clients will be denied
further access to the TS until a permanent TS CAL is available on
the LS.

Deleting the license from the client to regain access to the TS is
technically a violation of the EULA (but allowed for
troubleshooting purposes). It shouldn't work either: it will allow
you to connect once more, since every first connection gets a
temporary license, but the second connection attempt should be
refused (that's when the permanent license must be issued).

Hard to say what the plan of the previous admins was, maybe they
weren't aware of the licensing requirements, or just didn't bother
to install them, since they were leaving anyway...

 --
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
http://hem.fyristorg.com/vera/IT
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=?Utf-8?B?Sm9obiBUcmVhbm9y?= <jtreanor@earthlink.net> wrote in
news:27D75D9C-9D36-4EE7-BA6A-01D0303C6614@microsoft.com:

> Thanks very much, Vera. I had a feeling that this was the case
> and checked out the pricing for 2003 TS CAL's today.
>
> I don't need an additional license for the server, do I?
>
> Also, what will happen when the temporary TS CAL's expire? I've
> noted that if I delete the appropriate registry key on the
> client a new temporary 90-day TS CAL is created on the server.
> I'm just trying to figure out what the previous admin's plan
> was, or if they had just let it run like that for a while....
>
> Thanks again -
> John Treanor
>
>
> ----- Vera Noest [MVP] wrote: -----
>
> In short: you need to buy and install TS CALs.
>
> According to your information from the Licensing Manager,
> your LS is activated and functioning correctly, since it is
> issueing temporary TS CALs. It contains "Existing W2K TS
> CALs" because it also can handle licensing for W2K Terminal
> Servers, but since you run Windows 2003 TS, you cann't use
> those. The fact that the LS is issueing temporary "Per
> Device 2003 TSCALs" shows that your 2003 TS is in the "Per
> Device" licensing mode.
>
> What you have to do is:
> * decide if you need "Per Device" or "Per User" TSCALs
> (which alternative is cheaper in your organisation depends
> on if you have more users than workstations, or the other
> way around). * buy enough TS CALs and install them on the
> LS * if you buy "Per User" TS CALs, switch your TS to "Per
> User" licensing. You can change this from Administrative
> Tools - Terminal Services Configuration - Server Settings
>
> Further details:
> Windows Server 2003 Pricing and Licensing FAQ
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/howtobuy/licensi
n
> g/pric licfaq.mspx
>
> If you run XP Pro on your clients desktops, you might be
> entitled to a free TS CAL. Check:
> Terminal Server CAL Transition Plan FAQ
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/howtobuy/licensi
n
> g/tsca ltransfaq.mspx
>
> Check this article as well, it explains that your Per User
> TS CAL count will not be decremented:
> 822134 - The Function of Terminal Server CALs in Windows
> Server 2003
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=822134
>
> --
> Vera Noest
> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> http://hem.fyristorg.com/vera/IT
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>
> =?Utf-8?B?Sm9obiBUcmVhbm9y?= <jtreanor@earthlink.net> wrote
> in news:6D344015-4FDF-4F82-9BE5-C9C4FEA06FEF@microsoft.com:
>
> > I have "inherited" a Windows 2003 Server network that
> > currently has Citrix Metaframe XP installed. I can't get
> > any info from the former admin, so I am trying to figure
> > out the licensing and have spent hours trying to decipher
> > what is needed, if anything.
> >> Currently, when in Licensing Manager, I see two objects:
> > (1) Existing Windows 2000 Server - Terminal Services CAL
> > token (per device) This is empty
> > (2) Temporary Licenses for Windows Server 2003 - Terminal
> > Server Per Device CAL Token This has a lot of temporary
> > licenses in it.
> > Some of them are set to expire soon and the clients are
> > getting
> > pending expiration messages.
> >> I have tried the registry trick (of removing the license
> >> info
> > from the registry key
> > -HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\MSLicensing - on
> > the client side), which worked, and the machine was given
> > a new license the next time it logged on to the Terminal
> > Server.
> >> I am confused. If the license server was activated in
> >> the first
> > place, what was required at that time? What do I need
> > now? Are the temp licenses going to auto-renew? Any
> > help would be greatly appreciated!
> >> Thanks -
> > John Treanor
> > jtreanor@earthlink.net

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