Re: Two Server Setup Question.

i would make it as hard as possible for there to be any interaction between
a student accessed lab and the school admin machines. i would prefer whole
separate routers and lan wiring so that the lab could be completely isolated
not only from the admin lan but from the outside world. unless the lab
absolutely needs outside access, and then i would monitor it and restrict it
to only what is required... and again preferably from a separate outside
connection if possible, otherwise through a dmz like setup so it can't get
back to the admin domain, only out to the internet.

"Purtech" <mikek(remove)@hlit.net> wrote in message
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Excellent Dennis.

What I don't understand is how a child domain works - particularly with
Authentication. Actually...now that I think about it... so
teacher@xxxxxxxxxx who is a admin/account operator of lab.school.org does
not have admin privileges in the school.org domain, right?

But administrator in the school.org domain does, have admin right to
lab.school.org, right?

Also:

There are about 20 computers in the lab and about 10-15 in admin. I have
two switches. Would two separate VLAN's or two subnets be appropriate. I
don't think broadcast traffic is a big issue with this setup and these
switches.

Dave - in the other post - said he would just create to separate domains.
school.org and school2.org I suppose. Is this more secure?

Thanks!

"Dennis Chung [MVP]" <dennis@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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There are several scenarios you can create from there.
Assuming these followings;
Teacher has an account in school.org. But here, the teacher is a normal
user. Limited rights, just normal user. This can also be administration.

After that domain is up and the teacher has a normal account, say
teacher@xxxxxxxxxxx
You go on to build another child domain, lab.school.org
Put the teacher@xxxxxxxxxx as a domain admin / account operator in
lab.school.org.

Of course domain design wise will be like that.

But observing that you mention the new server will be school.org, and
your old server be lab.school.org. You have a few stage here to deal
with.

Stage 1. Assuming your current old server is housing school.org. You need
to put your new server as school.org. You need to make the new server a
dc. Before you can add a w2k3 dc into a w2k domain, you need to perform
adprep. Go to support.microsoft.com and search for the adprep command to
extend the schema. Then you dcpromo to make the w2k3 box a DC.
Subsequent, leave it for about 30 mins.

Stage 2. You need to remove the old server and make it the DC for
lab.school.org. DCpromo your old server to remove it as a domain
controller. Remember to deal with your DNS/DHCP to reflect the new DC
else your clients will not be able to find the w2k3 DC. After dcpromo,
it'll be a normal member server of the domain.

Stage 3. Now you can put your old server as the dc for lab.school.org as
a DC by doing dcpromo.

Stage 4. In lab.school.org, you specify that TEacher@xxxxxxxxxx is a
member of lab.school.org\domain admin or account operators group.

Then i guess you're more or less done. :-)

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Best Regards,
Dennis Chung

MCP, MCSA (2k3/Security), MCSE (2000/2003)
MCDBA, MCTS (SQL 2005), MCITP (SQL 2005 - DBA)
Microsoft Certified Trainer, Microsoft MVP - Windows

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"Purtech" <mikek(remove)@hlit.net> wrote in message
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A school currently has one 2000 server. Single domain. Lets says
school.org.

They want to add a second server and upgrade both to Windows 2003
Standard.

They want the newer second server to be in administration, and the older
server to be in a computer lab.

They want administration and lab to have separate log in controls. The
teacher in charge of the lab server can add and removed student log ins.
However, he will have limited access to the administration server.

First: should I create two separate domains? administration.school.org
and lab.school.org. Or just create a lab.school.org under school.org?

They will not grow past this for years.

Thanks for you help.








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