Re: xp workstations unable to log-in to win 2003 domain at boot-up

yes i can access that share no problem . . . would you recommend i change the
name of the workgroup to be differnt than the domain. right now they are
both 'drive-ind' . . they were before too when everything worked so i didnt
think of it as an issue but maybe that could have something to do with it .
..what do you think/ ill check the event logs and send you whateveer
information i can gleen from them
thanks agian yoiure my hero =)

"Miha Pihler [MVP]" wrote:

> Can you access this share from your client...
>
> \\dcserver\sysvol\
>
> where dcserver is name of your new server.
>
> Can you again check event logs on your domain controller and your client for
> any errors. Check System and Application logs.
>
> I am slowly running out of ideas what could be wrong.
>
> My advice is still to remove the client PC from old domain that doesn't
> exist any more and join them to workgroup. Reboot the PC and try to add them
> to new domain...
>
> --
> Mike
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Security
>
> "joeydb331" <joeydb331@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:C1DCF678-D655-4995-8A2B-306FBB9FB7EC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > All of the workstations are xp professional, most of which have service
> > pack
> > 2. I did reboot the server after changing the various settings. Lastly
> > every workstation is having the same problem. They are all part of the
> > workgroup and none of them are able to log-in to the domain at boot-up.
> > After each workstation boots up though, they can all access the dc machine
> > (the user is presented with a login screen when trying to access files on
> > the
> > server and if they have the right permissions, they can use those files
> > no
> > problem.
> > I am perplexed!
> >
> >
> > ihler [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Did you reboot the DC server or restart NetLogon service?
> >>
> >> To be able to go to the internet you will have to set up DNS on DC
> >> server.
> >> Open DNS MMC and right click on server name in MMC. Now go to forwarders
> >> tab
> >> end enter your ISP DNS server or what you had set before (192.168.1.1).
> >>
> >> Can you try to add some other PC to the domain -- if there is a problem
> >> with
> >> this particular one?
> >>
> >> What version of client do you use? E.g. Windows XP Professional with
> >> Service
> >> Pack 2?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Mike
> >> Microsoft MVP - Windows Security
> >>
> >> "joeydb331" <joeydb331@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:A16C8265-7C15-4B3F-873E-EC141AA367D9@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > okay i set the servers ip address and preferred dns server manually:
> >> > ip 192.168.1.101
> >> > dns 192.168.1.101
> >> >
> >> > I deleted all of the 'computers' from the active directory. I also
> >> > disabled
> >> > my network card, changed the name of my pc (for the new client set-up),
> >> > and
> >> > rebooted after the changes had been made to the server.
> >> >
> >> > When i to set the preferred dns server (address above) on my
> >> > workstation
> >> > pc
> >> > it would no longer allow me to access the internet and I received the
> >> > same
> >> > error message as I originally wrote about about when i tried to join
> >> > the
> >> > domian.
> >> >
> >> > I am discouraged.
> >> > Thank you so much for your help so far though . . . maybe some of that
> >> > information will help you diagnose whats wrong with this nightmare.
> >> >
> >> > Looking forward to hearing from you,
> >> >
> >> > Joey
> >> >
> >> > "Miha Pihler [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> My recommendation is to put DC server to static IP address. Also
> >> >> change
> >> >> preferred DNS settings on the server to point back to the server
> >> >> itself.
> >> >> E.g. if you give your server IP address 192.168.1.50 enter this IP
> >> >> address
> >> >> under preferred DNS server. After you did these two changes, restart
> >> >> netlogon service.
> >> >>
> >> >> Now, change also TCP configuration of the client (e.g. Windows XP).
> >> >> They
> >> >> must also point to 192.168.1.50 for preferred DNS server.
> >> >>
> >> >> After you do this, try to add client to domain again (try with
> >> >> different
> >> >> clients)...
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Mike
> >> >> Microsoft MVP - Windows Security
> >> >>
> >> >> "joeydb331" <joeydb331@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> >> news:D7F2A9C9-02B9-4C24-9E4C-B212C6004DE4@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> > That reply i just sent you was obviously a mistake. Here's the
> >> >> > information
> >> >> > that i left out:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The errror message originally was:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > " your computer could not be joined to the domain because the
> >> >> > following
> >> >> > error
> >> >> > has occured: the specified server cannot perform the requested
> >> >> > operation."
> >> >> >
> >> >> > recently it changed to something about not being able to use
> >> >> > multiple
> >> >> > instances of user log-ins (or something like that) i'd tell you the
> >> >> > exact
> >> >> > message but unfortuantely i just tried it again and im back to the
> >> >> > original
> >> >> > error message again! dag nab it.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I am using a linksys router that has a built-in dhcp server, etc.
> >> >> > (i'm
> >> >> > sure
> >> >> > that you're familiar with them). Due to that, I just left the
> >> >> > majority
> >> >> > of
> >> >> > settings up to the router (like automatic ip address, etc.) I am
> >> >> > under
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > impression that a static ip address would be better, but this
> >> >> > business
> >> >> > internet service is thru SBC and they are not paying for any static
> >> >> > ip's.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > When checking the event viewer it states that DNS has started and
> >> >> > doesn't
> >> >> > show any errors.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ip address 192.168.1.(100 - 150 automatically
> >> >> > assigned
> >> >> > subnet mask 255.255.255.0
> >> >> > default gateway 192.168.1.1 (This is the routers ip
> >> >> > address)
> >> >> > dhcp server 192.168.1.1
> >> >> >
> >> >> > dns server 192.168.0.1 (This is the SBC DSL
> >> >> > modem's
> >> >> > address)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Miha Pihler [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Hi,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> How is DNS set up on Domain Controller (DC)?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> What did you set for preferred DNS server under TCP/IP settings on
> >> >> >> DC?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> What did you set for preferred DNS server under TCP/IP settings on
> >> >> >> client
> >> >> >> PC?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> What is the exact error that you get when you try to join it to
> >> >> >> domain?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Don't pre-create any computer accounts (if you already did - remove
> >> >> >> them)
> >> >> >> and then try processed described before. Once the processed
> >> >> >> described
> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> my
> >> >> >> previous post is successful it will create Computer account on
> >> >> >> domain
> >> >> >> controller automatically.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> You should also check Event Logs on DC (System and Application
> >> >> >> logs -
> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> also others) for any errors.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Mike
> >> >> >> Microsoft MVP - Windows Security
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "joeydb331" <joeydb331@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:B2C47AF2-B42B-4072-B3BC-3060B1AECCA1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> >> > When i try what you've suggested (again THANKS so much for being
> >> >> >> > cool
> >> >> >> > enough
> >> >> >> > to write all of that stuff out for me) I have no problem becoming
> >> >> >> > a
> >> >> >> > member
> >> >> >> > of
> >> >> >> > the workgroup (and it happens just like you describe), but when i
> >> >> >> > then
> >> >> >> > try
> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> > join the domain i recieve that same damn error message that i've
> >> >> >> > been
> >> >> >> > getting
> >> >> >> > all along.
> >> >> >> > I'm beginning to think that something is wrong with the way that
> >> >> >> > I
> >> >> >> > set-up
> >> >> >> > the win 2003 server PC. Maybe some policy setting I'm missing,
> >> >> >> > trust
> >> >> >> > relationship issue, or service that i should have running but
> >> >> >> > don't,
> >> >> >> > etc.
> >> >> >> > Hey when you set-up a 'computer' in the 'active directory users
> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> > computers' area and it asks you if the computer will be a
> >> >> >> > 'managed
> >> >> >> > computer',
> >> >> >> > do you ever answer 'yes' to that and if so, how do you determine
> >> >> >> > your
> >> >> >> > 'GUID'?
> >> >> >> > could my issue be some how related to that?
> >> >> >> > Thanks again for any and all help that you are willing to provide
> >> >> >> > =)
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "Miha Pihler [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> Hi,
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Right click on My Computer on PC that you want to add to domain.
> >> >> >> >> Now
> >> >> >> >> click
> >> >> >> >> on Properties. Click on Change and under Domain enter name of
> >> >> >> >> your
> >> >> >> >> new
> >> >> >> >> domain.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> If computer is already a member of domain then enter a name
> >> >> >> >> (e.g.
> >> >> >> >> Temp)
> >> >> >> >> under Workgroup. Once the computer is joined to Workgroup (it
> >> >> >> >> will
> >> >> >> >> say
> >> >> >> >> "Welcome to Temp Workgroup) go back and under domain enter name
> >> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> >> your
> >> >> >> >> new
> >> >> >> >> domain. (You don't have to reboot yet). Once a computer is back
> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> domain
> >> >> >> >> do
> >> >> >> >> a reboot and your computer should now be able to log in to the
> >> >> >> >> domain.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> Mike
> >> >> >> >> Microsoft MVP - Windows Security
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> "joeydb331" <joeydb331@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> news:EC299BDF-3067-454C-9245-7DE703E267A7@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> >> >> >I read your response (thank you very much by the way) and gave
> >> >> >> >> >it
> >> >> >> >> >a
> >> >> >> >> >try.
> >> >> >> >> > First, I opened the 'active directory users and computers' mmc
> >> >> >> >> > on
> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> > 2003
> >> >> >> >> > server, then I added a new PC named "tryagain" in the
> >> >> >> >> > 'computers'
> >> >> >> >> > section,
> >> >> >> >> > checking the various settings, assignign rights and
> >> >> >> >> > permissions,
> >> >> >> >> > etc.
> >> >> >> >> > Then
> >> >> >> >> > I
> >> >> >> >> > renamed one of the XP workstations to "tryagain", rebooted,
> >> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> >> > attempted
> >> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> >> > go through the network wizard process that I had explained in
> >> >> >> >> > my
> >> >> >> >> > very
> >> >> >> >> > first
> >> >> >> >> > post. Unfortunatley I got the exact same error message AGAIN.
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