Re: disabled in gpedit, but shutdown tracker still tracking

dang it!!

everything was poifect, see? then i did sp1: okay. remainder of updates:
okay. joined the domain: okay. installed sophos a/v: bam, i'm back where i
was.

now before we go blaming sophos, the last time i was having this problem
(all the way back 2 hours ago!), i couldn't even get as far as installing
sophos. so it's something else. i'm running a h/w diagnostic right now. (it
passed the quick test. hoping hoping hoping for an error in the extended).

so, while the speed of the box is fine and the shutdown tracker is disabled,
i get an error dialog at startup: 'at least one service or driver
failed during system startup. use event viewer to exam the event log for
details'. when i try to view the system events i get the dialog 'the event
log file is corrupt'. (info on this error:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;811143 ). apps and
security work fine. also, i lost all my info in rsop and i've got a red X on
computer configuration.

okay. the extended h/w diag passed on all fronts.

okay, i just uninstalled sp1 and now the event viewer and rsop are working.
dammit!! going home for the weekend....

okay. hope everyone had a nice weekend. so, on boot, i still get the missing
services error. on checking the system log, source is service control
manager, event id 7000. after investigating, it appears that the vmm service
is not starting, hardly surprising as the service is not listed in services.
msc.

so, i'm hesitant to re-install at this point. i think it'll just happen
again. and what is the deal with sp1 hosing my viewers? i'm thinking maybe a
hardware issue, but that doesn't really seem likely, especially since the
hardware passed all tests.

honestly, while this is the first w2k3 box i've ever put into production,
i've done multiple test installs at home and here at work and never had any
problems like this. (my boss is taking the stance that SHE'S done plenty of
w2k3 boxes and SHE'S never had this problem so it must be something I'M
doing wrong. so please, help me before i get fired for hitting my boss!!)

thx,

evan


"Evan" <eurkofsky@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:%238n2JcXtFHA.1372@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> okay. after doing a fresh install, everything is perfect!! as a matter of
> fact, i was having some performance issues (slowness) with the last
> install and those have cleared up as well. but, event tracking, rsop,
> etc., all working as they should. me? i blame the dell 'server
> installation and management' cd, but who knows...?
>
> anyways, thx again for the help!
>
> evan
>
>
> "Evan" <eurkofsky@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:e8lMHYXtFHA.3908@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> oh, hey. thx for not giving up! i'm reasonably certain that it's a
>> corrupted install (scandisk, sfc, etc. were no help) so i already blew
>> away the partition and am re-installing now, WITHOUT the dell management
>> disk. i'm gonna chalk this up to a flukey install and get on with my
>> life. :-) but, if i run into the same problem, i'll post back.
>>
>> again, i do appreciate your time.
>>
>> thx,
>>
>> evan
>>
>> "Miha Pihler [MVP]" <mihap-news@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:%23At3qLXtFHA.1472@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> OK. Sorry. My mistake. So if I understand it correctly you have NT
>>> domain?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mike
>>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Security
>>>
>>>
>>> "Evan" <eurkofsky@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:u$0s41WtFHA.460@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> thx for the help, mike. i had a feeling you were gonna say that. as i
>>>> stated previously, this particular domain is not ad'd, and i have no
>>>> intentions of making it so. (unless, of course, you're willing to call
>>>> my boss and convince her to do so!) i think i'm gonna reinstall and get
>>>> dell on the phone if i have any more problems. (i still suspect it
>>>> might be their damn server setup software).
>>>>
>>>> thx again!
>>>>
>>>> "Miha Pihler [MVP]" <mihap-news@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:eef4NxWtFHA.3720@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Install DNS service on Active Directory Server and create appropriate
>>>>> Forward Zones (DNS name of your Active Directory domain).
>>>>> Once it is installed change the preferred DNS setting (under TCP/IP)
>>>>> on the Active Directory Server to point back to its own IP address (or
>>>>> loop back IP address of 127.0.0.1). Once this is done, restart the
>>>>> NetLogon service on Active Directory Server.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now we can move to the File Server. Change the preferred DNS settings
>>>>> on the file server to point to IP address of your DNS server (I guess
>>>>> your Active Directory server now). Restart Netlogon service on this
>>>>> server or reboot the whole server if you can/want.
>>>>> See how server behaves now and we will take it from here if there are
>>>>> any problems (or what's left of the problems...)
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Security
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Evan" <eurkofsky@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>> news:O6lwOoWtFHA.3328@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> yes, this box is a member of a domain. (something else i have not
>>>>>> mentioned before: this w2k3 box is replacing a w2k server box). so...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sure let's fix the dns!! what do you have in mind?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thx again,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> evan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Miha Pihler [MVP]" <mihap-news@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:%23t7L7KWtFHA.3908@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok another question just to make sure -- this file server is a
>>>>>>> member of domain? If yes, then you will _have_ to fix the DNS thing
>>>>>>> first before we can go on. Even if you do the fdisk (and I don't
>>>>>>> think you will have to once you fix DNS) it will only fix the
>>>>>>> problem for short period of time (days, maybe a week...)...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Security
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Evan" <Evan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:8B8E5807-44E3-4F2A-AF55-84C235FBC437@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> hi mike. i'm sorry if i have not been clear in my previous posts:
>>>>>>>> we are not
>>>>>>>> using ad. the dc does not have the dns server role installed.
>>>>>>>> (don't ask me
>>>>>>>> why. it was like that when i got here and my boss wants/likes it
>>>>>>>> that way).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> so, with that in mind, let's recap: this is a w2k3 box set up as a
>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>> server only; *NO* ad; the system log is corrupted; event tracker
>>>>>>>> disabled in
>>>>>>>> gpo but still tracking; red X on computer configuration in rsop
>>>>>>>> (prolly cuz
>>>>>>>> no ad, right?); red X on "administrator on ourserver - rsop" in
>>>>>>>> rsop; also -
>>>>>>>> not previously mentioned - i have disables ie enhanced secrity and
>>>>>>>> can surf
>>>>>>>> just fine, but the homepage is stuck on the enhanced security
>>>>>>>> message.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> what do you think? fdisk?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thx again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Miha Pihler [MVP]" wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My suggestion it to try and solve one problem at the time :-). I
>>>>>>>>> will help
>>>>>>>>> you as much as I can.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> One of requirements for setting up Active Directory is DNS server.
>>>>>>>>> You can't
>>>>>>>>> have (healthy, working) Active Directory without DNS server.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In most cases Active Directory server will also be DNS server...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Since your server is member of your Active Directory domain it
>>>>>>>>> needs to talk
>>>>>>>>> to domain controller. The only way for your server to find domain
>>>>>>>>> controller
>>>>>>>>> is by DNS. So this is something your will have to check and fix.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you run
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ipconfig /all
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> on your server. What is the result that you get?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can you check your Active Directory server to see if DNS Server is
>>>>>>>>> installed
>>>>>>>>> on it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Security
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Evan" <eurkofsky@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:e4F67eVtFHA.1372@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> > okay, we don't have a dns server so it's set to obtain
>>>>>>>>> > automatically. the
>>>>>>>>> > system event viewer...
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > okay, obviously something got f'ed up here. i got a red X on the
>>>>>>>>> > system
>>>>>>>>> > event viewer (application and security are okay) and a dialog
>>>>>>>>> > stating that
>>>>>>>>> > the system log is corrupted. as you're an mvp, i'll take your
>>>>>>>>> > advice here,
>>>>>>>>> > but this is a brand new box with no data yet, so i'm thinkin'
>>>>>>>>> > "do over".
>>>>>>>>> > what do you think?
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > thx again for your help on this.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > evan
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > "Miha Pihler [MVP]" <mihap-news@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> > news:%23DC7RKRtFHA.4080@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> >> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> Can you check few things on this server?
>>>>>>>>> >> - Are there any errors on this server in Application or System
>>>>>>>>> >> Event log?
>>>>>>>>> >> - Where does preferred DNS point to on this server
>>>>>>>>> >> (configuration under
>>>>>>>>> >> TCP/IP properties)
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> --
>>>>>>>>> >> Mike
>>>>>>>>> >> Microsoft MVP - Windows Security
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> "Evan" <eurkofsky@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> >> news:eTd2WKNtFHA.2892@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> >>> yup. i did just what you did:
>>>>>>>>> >>> start|run|gpedit.msc|CC|AT|system. and by
>>>>>>>>> >>> gum, it's set to 'disable'. via rsop: well now, that's
>>>>>>>>> >>> interesting. i've
>>>>>>>>> >>> got a red X thru computer configuration. hmmm, there's even a
>>>>>>>>> >>> red X
>>>>>>>>> >>> above that on the root of "administrator on ourservername -
>>>>>>>>> >>> rsop"
>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>> okay, wtf?
>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>> "Miha Pihler [MVP]" <mihap-news@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> >>> news:%236a4VnKtFHA.3596@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> >>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> How did you set the policy?
>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> I just tested this on one of mine computers and it worked.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> I open group policy editor and drilled down under Computer
>>>>>>>>> >>>> Configuration\Administrative Templates\System. Here I doubled
>>>>>>>>> >>>> clicked
>>>>>>>>> >>>> on the policy called "Shut Down Event Tracker" and selected
>>>>>>>>> >>>> Disable. I
>>>>>>>>> >>>> closed the policy and the server did not show the Tracker any
>>>>>>>>> >>>> more...
>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> Can you run RSOP.msc from Start -> Run menu on the server?
>>>>>>>>> >>>> What do you
>>>>>>>>> >>>> see set for "Shut Down Event Tracker" policy?
>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> --
>>>>>>>>> >>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>> >>>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Security
>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> "Evan" <eurkofsky@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> >>>> news:%238HqwlItFHA.616@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> hey mike.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> yes, this is a file server only and is on a domain. i edited
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> policy locally. please note, though, that we are not using
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> ad so
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> nothing is getting pushed down via gpo. i'm wondering if
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> this has
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> something to do with the fact that i used dell's
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> 'installation and
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> server management' cd to do the install. it's the first time
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> i've used
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> that method and it's the first time i've had this problem.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> seem likely, but my spidey senses are definitely tingling!
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> thx,
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> evan
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> "Miha Pihler [MVP]" <mihap-news@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> message
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> news:u8yJvzDtFHA.1216@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Is computer member of domain? Did you edit local policy or
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> group
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> policy?
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Security
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> "Evan" <eurkofsky@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> news:uWhKYFAtFHA.1444@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> i think the title says it all. brand new install of w2k3
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> sp1. i'm
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> still getting the tracking box even though it's disabled
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> via gpedit.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> ideas?
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> thx!
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
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