Re: disabled in gpedit, but shutdown tracker still tracking

okay. after doing a fresh install, everything is perfect!! as a matter of
fact, i was having some performance issues (slowness) with the last install
and those have cleared up as well. but, event tracking, rsop, etc., all
working as they should. me? i blame the dell 'server installation and
management' cd, but who knows...?

anyways, thx again for the help!

evan


"Evan" <eurkofsky@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:e8lMHYXtFHA.3908@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> oh, hey. thx for not giving up! i'm reasonably certain that it's a
> corrupted install (scandisk, sfc, etc. were no help) so i already blew
> away the partition and am re-installing now, WITHOUT the dell management
> disk. i'm gonna chalk this up to a flukey install and get on with my life.
> :-) but, if i run into the same problem, i'll post back.
>
> again, i do appreciate your time.
>
> thx,
>
> evan
>
> "Miha Pihler [MVP]" <mihap-news@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:%23At3qLXtFHA.1472@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> OK. Sorry. My mistake. So if I understand it correctly you have NT
>> domain?
>>
>> --
>> Mike
>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Security
>>
>>
>> "Evan" <eurkofsky@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:u$0s41WtFHA.460@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> thx for the help, mike. i had a feeling you were gonna say that. as i
>>> stated previously, this particular domain is not ad'd, and i have no
>>> intentions of making it so. (unless, of course, you're willing to call
>>> my boss and convince her to do so!) i think i'm gonna reinstall and get
>>> dell on the phone if i have any more problems. (i still suspect it might
>>> be their damn server setup software).
>>>
>>> thx again!
>>>
>>> "Miha Pihler [MVP]" <mihap-news@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:eef4NxWtFHA.3720@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Install DNS service on Active Directory Server and create appropriate
>>>> Forward Zones (DNS name of your Active Directory domain).
>>>> Once it is installed change the preferred DNS setting (under TCP/IP) on
>>>> the Active Directory Server to point back to its own IP address (or
>>>> loop back IP address of 127.0.0.1). Once this is done, restart the
>>>> NetLogon service on Active Directory Server.
>>>>
>>>> Now we can move to the File Server. Change the preferred DNS settings
>>>> on the file server to point to IP address of your DNS server (I guess
>>>> your Active Directory server now). Restart Netlogon service on this
>>>> server or reboot the whole server if you can/want.
>>>> See how server behaves now and we will take it from here if there are
>>>> any problems (or what's left of the problems...)
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Mike
>>>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Security
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Evan" <eurkofsky@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:O6lwOoWtFHA.3328@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> yes, this box is a member of a domain. (something else i have not
>>>>> mentioned before: this w2k3 box is replacing a w2k server box). so...
>>>>>
>>>>> sure let's fix the dns!! what do you have in mind?
>>>>>
>>>>> thx again,
>>>>>
>>>>> evan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Miha Pihler [MVP]" <mihap-news@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%23t7L7KWtFHA.3908@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok another question just to make sure -- this file server is a member
>>>>>> of domain? If yes, then you will _have_ to fix the DNS thing first
>>>>>> before we can go on. Even if you do the fdisk (and I don't think you
>>>>>> will have to once you fix DNS) it will only fix the problem for short
>>>>>> period of time (days, maybe a week...)...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Security
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Evan" <Evan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:8B8E5807-44E3-4F2A-AF55-84C235FBC437@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> hi mike. i'm sorry if i have not been clear in my previous posts: we
>>>>>>> are not
>>>>>>> using ad. the dc does not have the dns server role installed. (don't
>>>>>>> ask me
>>>>>>> why. it was like that when i got here and my boss wants/likes it
>>>>>>> that way).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> so, with that in mind, let's recap: this is a w2k3 box set up as a
>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>> server only; *NO* ad; the system log is corrupted; event tracker
>>>>>>> disabled in
>>>>>>> gpo but still tracking; red X on computer configuration in rsop
>>>>>>> (prolly cuz
>>>>>>> no ad, right?); red X on "administrator on ourserver - rsop" in
>>>>>>> rsop; also -
>>>>>>> not previously mentioned - i have disables ie enhanced secrity and
>>>>>>> can surf
>>>>>>> just fine, but the homepage is stuck on the enhanced security
>>>>>>> message.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> what do you think? fdisk?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thx again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Miha Pihler [MVP]" wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My suggestion it to try and solve one problem at the time :-). I
>>>>>>>> will help
>>>>>>>> you as much as I can.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One of requirements for setting up Active Directory is DNS server.
>>>>>>>> You can't
>>>>>>>> have (healthy, working) Active Directory without DNS server.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In most cases Active Directory server will also be DNS server...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Since your server is member of your Active Directory domain it
>>>>>>>> needs to talk
>>>>>>>> to domain controller. The only way for your server to find domain
>>>>>>>> controller
>>>>>>>> is by DNS. So this is something your will have to check and fix.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you run
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ipconfig /all
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> on your server. What is the result that you get?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can you check your Active Directory server to see if DNS Server is
>>>>>>>> installed
>>>>>>>> on it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Security
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Evan" <eurkofsky@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:e4F67eVtFHA.1372@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> > okay, we don't have a dns server so it's set to obtain
>>>>>>>> > automatically. the
>>>>>>>> > system event viewer...
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > okay, obviously something got f'ed up here. i got a red X on the
>>>>>>>> > system
>>>>>>>> > event viewer (application and security are okay) and a dialog
>>>>>>>> > stating that
>>>>>>>> > the system log is corrupted. as you're an mvp, i'll take your
>>>>>>>> > advice here,
>>>>>>>> > but this is a brand new box with no data yet, so i'm thinkin' "do
>>>>>>>> > over".
>>>>>>>> > what do you think?
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > thx again for your help on this.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > evan
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > "Miha Pihler [MVP]" <mihap-news@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> > news:%23DC7RKRtFHA.4080@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> >> Hi,
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> Can you check few things on this server?
>>>>>>>> >> - Are there any errors on this server in Application or System
>>>>>>>> >> Event log?
>>>>>>>> >> - Where does preferred DNS point to on this server
>>>>>>>> >> (configuration under
>>>>>>>> >> TCP/IP properties)
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> --
>>>>>>>> >> Mike
>>>>>>>> >> Microsoft MVP - Windows Security
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> "Evan" <eurkofsky@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> >> news:eTd2WKNtFHA.2892@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> >>> yup. i did just what you did:
>>>>>>>> >>> start|run|gpedit.msc|CC|AT|system. and by
>>>>>>>> >>> gum, it's set to 'disable'. via rsop: well now, that's
>>>>>>>> >>> interesting. i've
>>>>>>>> >>> got a red X thru computer configuration. hmmm, there's even a
>>>>>>>> >>> red X
>>>>>>>> >>> above that on the root of "administrator on ourservername -
>>>>>>>> >>> rsop"
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>> okay, wtf?
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>> "Miha Pihler [MVP]" <mihap-news@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> >>> news:%236a4VnKtFHA.3596@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> >>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> How did you set the policy?
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> I just tested this on one of mine computers and it worked.
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> I open group policy editor and drilled down under Computer
>>>>>>>> >>>> Configuration\Administrative Templates\System. Here I doubled
>>>>>>>> >>>> clicked
>>>>>>>> >>>> on the policy called "Shut Down Event Tracker" and selected
>>>>>>>> >>>> Disable. I
>>>>>>>> >>>> closed the policy and the server did not show the Tracker any
>>>>>>>> >>>> more...
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> Can you run RSOP.msc from Start -> Run menu on the server?
>>>>>>>> >>>> What do you
>>>>>>>> >>>> see set for "Shut Down Event Tracker" policy?
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> --
>>>>>>>> >>>> Mike
>>>>>>>> >>>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Security
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> "Evan" <eurkofsky@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> >>>> news:%238HqwlItFHA.616@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> >>>>> hey mike.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>> yes, this is a file server only and is on a domain. i edited
>>>>>>>> >>>>> the
>>>>>>>> >>>>> policy locally. please note, though, that we are not using ad
>>>>>>>> >>>>> so
>>>>>>>> >>>>> nothing is getting pushed down via gpo. i'm wondering if this
>>>>>>>> >>>>> has
>>>>>>>> >>>>> something to do with the fact that i used dell's
>>>>>>>> >>>>> 'installation and
>>>>>>>> >>>>> server management' cd to do the install. it's the first time
>>>>>>>> >>>>> i've used
>>>>>>>> >>>>> that method and it's the first time i've had this problem.
>>>>>>>> >>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>> >>>>> seem likely, but my spidey senses are definitely tingling!
>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>> thx,
>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>> evan
>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>> "Miha Pihler [MVP]" <mihap-news@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> >>>>> news:u8yJvzDtFHA.1216@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Is computer member of domain? Did you edit local policy or
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> group
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> policy?
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Security
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> "Evan" <eurkofsky@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> news:uWhKYFAtFHA.1444@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> i think the title says it all. brand new install of w2k3
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> sp1. i'm
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> still getting the tracking box even though it's disabled
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> via gpedit.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> ideas?
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> thx!
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
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