Re: Copying files based on date during logon
From: Al Dunbar [MS-MVP] (alan-no-drub-spam_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 02/27/05
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 11:17:57 -0700
"Bob Williamson" <BobWilliamson@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Answers like that bring me back to the old days of ftp, gpoher, sellgin
stuff
> via nntp groups, etc and is why I continue to use NNTP groups, as opposed
to
> ones hosted on websites.
>
> I thank you for your time, you have been a great help. I think I will
learn
> some VBS...for myself if nothing else. (I used to program some in 6502
> machine language....long ago it seems...)
If you have ever been able to code in 6502, then I doubt you will have
difficulty with vbscript, which is somewhat less limiting!
> Thanks again,
You're welcome.
/Al
> Bob
>
> "Al Dunbar [MS-MVP]" wrote:
>
> >
> > "Bob Williamson" <BobWilliamson@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
> > news:890A700D-7986-446B-A617-539B1A776F22@microsoft.com...
> > > I guess my use of hte word "hack" was to try and make it obvious how
> > clueless
> > > I am with regard to scripting.
> >
> > LOL. Most of us will have deduced more about your scripting acumen from
your
> > actual code than from your self deprecating comments.
> >
> > > I thought I tried the redirect copy from the DFs location, but wil try
it
> > > again.
> >
> > Pardon? Your code looks like it would work, and you even said it did.
> >
> > > In a more general vein, would it be worth my while to learn VBscript,
for
> > > admin purposes? I know that is a very general question, but I
seriously
> > am
> > > not sure what would be best to expand on my current skill set.
> >
> > IMHO, an admin scripter cannot possibly get along without a reasonable
> > grounding in batch scripting. Batch is more hands-on with the o/s than
> > WSH/vbscript, or closer to the ground, if you will. A large proportion
of
> > the available commands are oriented more to the system than to
programming.
> > Historically, the programming aspects (GOTO, then CALL, then FOR) have
been
> > added over time as afterthoughts as it became evident that one could not
be
> > expected to type DOS commands all day long.
> >
> > VBScript is the exact opposite - a general purpose programming
environment
> > with o/s interface functionality added as an afterthought. It has NO
> > statements or commands that operate *directly* on the underlying
computer
> > environment. In fact, the ONLY "vbscript" functionality that opens the
door
> > to this access is the COM object interface, and the available COM
objects
> > such as the File System Object. Of course, this is not even native to
> > vbscript itself, but only to WSH.
> >
> > To answer your question as to whether it would be worth your while to
learn
> > VBScript, the answer is a resounding "IT DEPENDS!". Personally, I would
tend
> > to encourage you to do so. But I have found that not everyone takes to
it
> > equally. The same could be said of batch, of course, but even the least
> > adept of us are usually able to cobble together a simple batch file that
is
> > at least somewhat useful. The effort required to do very simple things
in
> > VBScript is great enough that one needs to actually work on it.
> >
> >
> > /Al
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Bob
> > >
> > > "Al Dunbar [MS-MVP]" wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > "Bob Williamson" <BobWilliamson@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> > message
> > > > news:A6555B99-6E1B-498B-8A2A-5F378031DD1C@microsoft.com...
> > > > > I guess a more general question would be, should I stick with my
use
> > of
> > > > > Xcopy? OR Should I be looking at going towards a more advanced
> > VBscript
> > > > etc?
> > > > >
> > > > > To me the use of xcopy seems like a hack, although it does work.
Here
> > is
> > > > an
> > > > > example of it's use:
> > > > >
> > > > > Net use q: dfs path
> > > > > Xcopy "q:\Microsoft
office\office10\OutlookSPPSCommon\vbaproject.otm"
> > > > > "%userprofile%\application data\Microsoft\Outlook" /S /D /Y /q
> > > > > Net use Q: /delete
> > > >
> > > > I don't understand your use of the term "hack". For some simple
> > operations,
> > > > a good batch solution can be every bit as reliable and elegant as a
> > vbscript
> > > > one. And, although vbscript gives you greater capability to apply
more
> > > > detailed logic, that does not mean that there are no vbscripts out
there
> > > > that are worse "hacks" than your sample script above.
> > > >
> > > > That said, the best choice for specific tasks within a logon
script/GPO
> > > > environment is the one that is simplest to maintain. If most of it
is
> > batch,
> > > > keeping it all in batch may be a consideration. If a significant
portion
> > is
> > > > in vbscript because it is just too hard to do in batch, it might be
> > worth
> > > > considering converting it all to vbscript. But that, in itself,
should
> > NOT
> > > > be the primary design goal.
> > > >
> > > > There are a few things you could do to simplify your batch script,
> > assuming
> > > > all of your clients are 2k or xp (not sure about nt):
> > > >
> > > > pushd "\\dfsServer\dfsShare$\Microsoft
> > > > office\office10\OutlookSPPSCommon"
> > > > Xcopy vbaproject.otm "%userprofile%\application
> > > > data\Microsoft\Outlook" /S /D /Y /q
> > > > popd
> > > >
> > > > or:
> > > >
> > > > Xcopy "\\dfsServer\dfsShare$\Microsoft
> > > > office\office10\OutlookSPPSCommon\vbaproject.otm"
> > "%userprofile%\application
> > > > data\Microsoft\Outlook" /S /D /Y /q
> > > >
> > > > Both methods will avoid the problem of drive Q: not being available.
> > > >
> > > > /Al
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks for your reply,
> > > > > Bob
> > > > >
> > > > > "Torgeir Bakken (MVP)" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Roland Hall wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Bob Williamson" wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:88B5A08F-98B5-4CB0-B1BC-9E9B3CA365C9@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > :I am a scripting neophte, to put it in a nice fashion...
> > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > : In short, I have a batch file that is called via GPO during
the
> > > > logon
> > > > > > > : process called logon.bat. As part of that batch it calls
xcopy,
> > > > with some
> > > > > > > : command line options, which copies a file from a network
> > location to
> > > > the
> > > > > > > : local computer if the network file has a newer date. I am
QUITE
> > > > certain
> > > > > > > : there is a better way to do this.....and thus my post.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You want to change what works?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > : I also need to register a dll after the copy occurs.
> > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > : Any tips on how best to handle this? I can probably get by
with
> > the
> > > > batch
> > > > > > > : file fo now, but I have to learn some mroe advanced
scripting
> > soon!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Put it at the end of the batch file.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > regsvr32 filename.dll
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And to make it unattended:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > regsvr32.exe /s filename.dll
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > torgeir, Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
> > > > > > Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of
> > > > > > the 1328 page Scripting Guide:
> > > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/default.mspx
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
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