Re: help for teacher

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From: joe16 (joe16_at_discussions.microsoft.com)
Date: 12/14/04 

Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 21:59:01 -0800

"Al Dunbar [MS-MVP]" wrote:

>
> "joe16" <joe16@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:2CF976F1-C79D-4ECB-9C21-821D0851B75B@microsoft.com...
> > Hi.
> >
> > I'm a teacher. I have difficulties with malicious users.
> > I have windows 2000 server and 98SE at the nodes. I am
> > using 2000 server as a print server with a usb printer. I
> > am using system policy editor with 98SE and have
> > integrated it with 2000 server with success. The students
> > log on under the same user name with the same restrictions.
>
> I am not quite sure what you mean by the above statement. Do they all logon
> to the same account on the windows 2000 server? Or does each logon to their
> own account that happens to be the same as their personal name?
>
> If they all share one single user account, then you are asking for more
> trouble than just them messing with printer drivers.
>
> > The students use notepad a lot.
> >
> > I'm going to try to be as specific as I can. I would like
> > to not allow students to change the print settings through
> > notepad. I can set a great number of restrictions at the
> > server. I can set defaults through the printer. However,
> > according to what I have learned these can be overriden by
> > the user through the applications.
> >
> > A log on script won't work because they can still change
> > the settings after they log on. I was thinking about
> > getting into the registry, but doesn't the user settings
> > change the registry settings?
>
> Some restrictions can be simulated as such with registry tweaks. Until you
> move to a client o/s that restricts the user's ability to modify registry
> settings, you will only be playing a game with your students. And given that
> you are a teacher and they are kids, I wouldn't recommend you try to beat
> them on that playing field, if you know what I mean.
>
> > I don't know whether I need
> > some kind of automated script that runs everytime they
> > click on the print button or what?
>
> You can provide all kinds of facilities that will limit what they can do
> when they use them, but if you do not remove the possibility of doing what
> you do not want them to do, you are hooped.
>
> > I'm really only concerned about limiting their activity
> > through notepad right now. Thanks in advance.
>
> As soon as you are able to lock them down in the context of notepad, they
> will find another way around your restrictions.
>
> /Al
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Point take about the hoop. However, my kids will try certain things and
certain things they won't. For example, they don't try to get through a boot
prompt, a boot disk, or through safe mode. They aren't malicioius too the
point where they will go into the guts of the computer and start erasing
stuff either. But from experience they will do a bunch of stuff with the
printer. So my experience is that you gotta know your users. To my
knowledge I have never had a kid go into the registry.

Re: question about user account. I have created a user called notepad.
When this user logs in the only application they can use is notepad. It is
nice to be able to do when you need to. It has worked well. Now I don't
know, it seems as though you are saying that this is problematic from another
standpoint. Maybe having eight people all logged on as the same user?
Please let me know more specifically about the possible problems.

Re: free eval. Yes both have free evals. I have e-mailed, but haven't
received a response yet.

I'm going to try to contact my printer tech support too.

 
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