Re: SBS 2003 > SBS 2003 Migration
- From: "Cliff Galiher" <cgaliher@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:50:49 -0700
Inline, if you please. :)
-Cliff
"Kris" <Kris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:3EFEA175-4E9C-4858-A93B-FF6B2832D189@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Many thanks for all the replies, they are very helpful.
www.sbsmigration.com is exactly what I need so I will definitely do some
more research on the site and hopefully pursue this opportunity.
The license on the current server is a Dell OEM SBS and Outlook 2003 license
with 5 cals, for which I have the Dell media. I was hoping that I could
re-use the license on the 2900 and decommission the 2600?
OEM licenses are tied to *specific* hardware, not just brands. So no, you cannot do this.
I am also unsure how many licenses are required for the new proposed
infrastructure as only one server will be in use at any one time but the
second server is in place for high availability and the hardware is slightly
different ?
SBS has never had a licensing provision for a cold-spare. "In use" doesn't matter. Installed does. If you install a non-OEM version on two machines, you need two licenses. VMs are somewhat unique as technically it is just one installation that you *move* from one physical machine to another.
Charlie mentioned the usb access issue within virtual machines. I have come
across this recently, I have never had to recover a server using ASR or IDR
so attempted to recently using a vmware image. I ran a backup including
snapshot from the current SBS server using Veritas Exec onto an external usb
hard drive that I was hoping to use for the restore, unfortunately I could
not get the usb device to appear within my virtual machine. Therefore
FabulaTech is another recommendation I will have to research.
Charlie and Cliff also mentioned I/O which is an area I am unsure about, I
am going to post a message on the VMware forum for more advice on this area.
If anyone can provide any advice on this forum the following details on our
network/proposed system may be useful:
I've already given my advice here. I think adding virtualization the mix is an undue burden on complexity. Based on the other questions you've asked, your organization is not at a place where they have the resources to properly manage VMs and execute the high-availability plans you have.
Currently 11 users (25 3 months ago but hopefully expand to 25 again in
2010/2011 if things pickup).
5 of the users are 3D CAD engineers designing automotive transmissions,
others are electronics engineers and admin.
Gigabit network, 3 x Dell 2724 Gigabit switches
Dell Powedge 2900 running ESXI and SBS 2003 as a virtual machine, I believe
it will also have the VMware data recovery software installed as a virtual
machine.
Netgear Ready Nas Pro iSCSI Network Attched Storage (this drive has been
recommended by a local VMware reseller) storing VMware images and 3D CAD data
(about 60 Gb CAD data)
I agree with Cliff's comments regarding budgets, unfortunately the budget is
currently 0 although hopefully some funding is due early next year and I will
be ready to grab some of it. So far I have budgeted for the VMware Vsphere
Essentials Bundle (£2000) and the above NAS drive (£1200).
You are already in big trouble then. I can assume that somehow you have access to these 2900's for *free* but, as I already mentioned, the 2900 series is not new, so you have to consider hardware repair costs as drives *will* fail (drives ALWAYS fail) and they aren't in warranty. And the licensing cost of the software. If your budget is truly 0, you can't afford to do this move even if you wanted to. Sometimes the hardest job of an IT person is standing your ground and pointing out that pinching pennies will cost more than it saves. Demand a budget.
It is very frustrating for me as I have been in the position for 3 years, it
was my first IT job and I was dumped in it!
I also appear to have spent most of the last 3 years doing other peoples
jobs, when I have tried to invest in the IT others interefered and it turned
into a cost cutting excercise for the extremely low IT spend we already had.
I pretty much felt like the company didn't value the IT until it broke and
that I was employed as a cost cutting exercise due to external IT support
costs increasing. Now the people who interfered are no longer with us and I
can concentrate on the IT and not be forced into using unsuitable solutions.
I feel much better now i've got that off my chest:)
The main driving force for ESXI is in the past I have used VMware desktop
and it has a big hit on performance where as ESXI is bare metal install and
the performance appears to be excellent.
The driving force behind implementing VMware is the ability to restore to a
previous snapshot or load an image in the case of a disaster. ESXI can be
installed in minutes, so as long as the snapshots are backed up onto tape a
restore should not be too big a headache!
Whether ESXi or Hyper-V, taking snapshots of AD controllers (including SBS) is a *BAD* idea. A quick bing of this will back me up. If that is your reason for virtualizing, skip it. There are better disaster recovery solutions, allow you to restore on dissimilar hardware, don't have the overhead of virtualization, and don't risk AD corruption.
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