Re: server filling up

thank you so much for the time it took to write this out and to attach
screen shots...i will be trying this as well as other suggestions
tonight and hope to have things running well again...

jared


On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 08:51:07 +1100, "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]"
<not@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

If the backup is not clearing the logs either the backup is failing or you
are not performing the right kind of backup.

NTBackup on systems with Exchange installed has an additional component that
displays the Exchange server. To perform an 'Exchange aware backup' only, do
not select any files for the backup, just select the 'store' (see pic). It's
also a good idea to include the System State with Exchange (I have not done
so in the pic).

Select the taget as any area that has sufficient space for the store,
backup. Inspect the 'report' at completion to confirm that the backup
completed successfully.

To automate such a backup on SBS where you are using an imaging product as
the main backup for the system one should run the SBSBackup wiz and accept
it's default file selections, set deleted item and VSS retention as desired,
complete the wiz. You can then open the 'backup script' file "Small Business
Backup Script.bks" in C:\Program Files\Microsoft Windows Small Business
Server\Backup using notepad and edit it to contain the one line:

JET SBS\Microsoft Information Store\First Storage Group\

or leave the 2nd line containing 'SystemState' as well.

This will:
1) Turn off (EVIL!!!) circular logging for Exchange.
2) Set your data retention periods.
3) Automate backup of Exchange in SBS manner (console will show 'backup
successful').


"Jaredean" <shop@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Thanks Dave...i was able to start Exchange no problem (that i can
tell) yesterday after i moved the 2008 log files (i didn't move the
2009 log files at all)...i will work on the backup situation right
away (i've been doing manual backups, so i have something but
aparently that isn't clearing out the exchange logs)...

Thanks for the links and info...

jared



On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 16:36:55 -0500, "Dave Nickason [SBS MVP]"
<gwdibble@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

How to move Exchange databases and logs in Exchange Server 2003
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/821915

Assuming you haven't already moved the page file, that's the easiest way
to
get a good amount of free space in a hurry. Create a new page file on the
D
(or whatever) partition, using the same settings as the one currently on
C.
Remove the one on C, and reboot.

Have you started (or attempted to start) Exchange without those log files?
I agree with Steve, I'm surprised the databases would mount without those
logs. If you have not yet attempted to start Exchange, I'd put those
files
back first and hope the database mounts when Exchange starts. Be careful
not to do anything with those files that can't easily be undone,
especially
given that you don't have a backup. Personally, I'd call CSS (Microsoft
support) and have them tell you how to get Exchange back in shape so you
don't lose any data.

If you get Exchange into a normally functioning state, you can turn on
circular logging to keep transaction logs from piling up until you get the
backup situation resolved. At that point, I'd make it my #1 priority to
get
backup working, after which I'd turn circular logging back off.



"SteveB" <newsgroup@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Please clarify-what do you mean my Outlook is on the D drive? I
specifically asked if you meant the Exchange IS databases but you didn't
respond to that. Outlook should never be installed on the SBS. Yes you
can
move the location of the transaction log files using the ESM. I don't
know
how messed up Exchange will be with those missing transaction log files
as
I'm a bit surprised that the stores are even mounting at all that way.

I recommend you hire an outside consultant to come in and help you out
with these specific SBS and Exchange issues.

"Jaredean" <shop@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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FREAK...ok, well i moved about 20 gig of them to just get the server
to start...did i mess the damn thing up now??? I can move them back
but will need to find something else to move to give me space...

The SBS Backup quit working and the error log was blank about 8 months
ago...i came to this group asking how to fix it and someone gave me a
page to follow that basically has me running it manually...not ideal,
but it would make sense that those logs are still there since the
backups aren't running through the administration side - right?

Outlook has always been on the D drive, but i wanted to move it to a
new hard drive that was an actual drive and not just a partition...the
data files are on the D drive, but the Logs are on the C drive...how
do i move them to the D drive???

thanks!
jared


On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:45:33 -0800, "SteveB" <newsgroup@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Do not manually move or delete these transaction log files as they are
part
of your Exchange information store. You need to be running an Exchange
aware
backup program (such as the built-in SBS backup) which when run will
commit
those log files properly and remove them. You mentioned moving Outlook
to
the D partition but did you really mean the Exchange IS databases? You
can
also move the transaction log files as well so they are no longer on C.
Regardless get that Exchange aware backup running ASAP.

"Jaredean" <shop@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Well, i cleared off a much as i could find Friday and the server did
end up filling up over the weekend and basically shut down (Exchange,
RDP, etc.) -- needless to say the owner (at the factory overseas) we
offline and not able to work and the problem is move alive for him
then before...

I went in this morning and found a TON of log files in the following
location:

C:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\MDBDATA

they are all named something like: E000DD62.log, E000DD61.log, etc...

I moved about 20 gig of them (from last year) to an external drive
until i can figure out why there are so many and if they are
needed...it looks like there are 5 meg files created every few
minutes
throughout the day...

Anyone know what these are, how to stop so many of them and if i can
delete them?

jared


On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:11:31 +0900, "KB" <kibr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I just had a similar problem on my workstation. The trace.log file in
C:\Windows\system32\Logfiles\WMI grew at an alarming rate. I had
installed
a
Microsoft program named BOOTVIS to try and work out why my PC was
taking
so
long to boot-up and this had turned tracing on. Not sure if the
increase
in
trace.log size is related to your problem. If it is then please visit
the
following two links for some answers:
http://forum.soft32.com/win3/WMI-trace-log-ftopict7221.html and
http://www.tweakxp.com/article37538.aspx
Cheers,
Kim.


"Jaredean" <shop@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:hrmpo458cpve54af7gdr2nr48easr4vtmd@xxxxxxxxxx
Yes, it has me concerned to say the least...I appreciate the
suggestions and will take it to the server when i can
(unfortunatly,
not until monday since i'm slammed until then)...

jared


On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 15:42:28 -0500, "Dave Nickason [SBS MVP]"
<gwdibble@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

You make a very good point that Jaredean really needs to find out
where
that
space is going - adding half a GB per day is not something you can
solve
by
creating free space, unless you're planning to build a data center
: -)


"Brian Cryer" <not.here@localhost> wrote in message
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"Jaredean" <shop@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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i'm getting concerned. Our server seems like it is filling up
too
quickly on the C: drive. I have all of our data/outlook on a D:
drive
and the C: drive is supposed to be just for programs. When i
was
out
of the country last week i kept getting e-mails about it filling
up...i came back and removed some things and moved some other
stuff
and freed up about 1.5 gigs...this was 2 days ago and i just got
an
e-mail report that it is down below 500 meg...that is over a gig
in a
few days that has filled up and i don't understand why, since it
is
the C: drive and not the data drive...

Do you know where the space is going?

If you are not sure then I recommend downloading TreeSize
(http://www.jam-software.com/freeware/index.shtml). Once you let
it
scan
the C drive it will give you a very intuitive tree view showing
where
space is being used.

Hope you get to the bottom of it.
--
Brian Cryer
www.cryer.co.uk/brian





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