Re: Help! Clients are off the network.

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From the time stamp on your last post I suppose you will be back at this a
bit later. OTOH, I am in the Rockies this week, so you may already be back at it.

It appears from a quick read of your last post that you are working properly with two nics. That is a good sign.

As for your question about WINS, there is no need for WINS on the second nic. It might help if you printed out the "good" config I sent you earlier and the following two diagrams.

Here is a diagram of a two nic config. Thanks to www.smallbizserver.net

http://www.smallbizserver.net/Articles/tabid/266/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/76/Two-Nics-a-static-IP-address-ISA-router.aspx

And here is a diagram of a one nic config. Thanks Eric and your publishers. (scroll down the page a bit, it starts with a two nic config as above)

http://books.google.com/books?id=QS6iUGkBtiwC&pg=PA44&lpg=PA44&dq=sbs+one+nic+diagram&source=bl&ots=bWCPdoAzF1&sig=C4D1prUFfMmcVfK8FTggoePKn_0&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=5&ct=result#PPA45,M1

Now you have a fork in the road. Assuming all is well, you can open a new post on how to make the phones work, or you can open a new post on how to get to one nic and then another on how to make the phones work. They will work in either configuration, but you have to be satisfied that your configuration is what you want and stable.

Don't forget to check your error logs and try the usual things you do from a workstation. Maybe even the unusual.

Then run the SBS BPA and fix anything it suggests before moving forward to any further changes.

www.sbsbpa.com

--
Larry
Please post the resolution to your
issue so that others may benefit.


"PWT24" <PWT24@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:A340DF7A-7F08-4163-9AAC-CBC2E8EEE807@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Ok here is an update.

I tried going through the steps mention previosly but go more frustrated so
here is what happened now.

I shut down the server and removed the lan side PCI nic. Started the server
and really went into panic mode! The server stopped at "preparing network
connections" so I hit the reset button. Then the server stopped at "applying
computer settings". Reset again and stopped at the same spot for about an
hour. I searched those two issues in the newsgroup and found that a possible
problem could be my APC unit. Went into safe mode removed the PowerChute
software and restarted. Same issue, locked at "applying computer settings".
So I went back and put the NiC back into the computer, started in safe mode
enabled the NIC and verified the binding. Restarted and the computer fired
up just fine. Now I have my complete network restored! What the heck!!
Server works fine, clients all get address via dhcp from the server and
connect to the internet just fine.

Strange thing is though, both WINS are not pointing to the internal nic.
See my new ipconfig results...

Server
Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : precision24
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : PrecisionWebTech.local
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : PrecisionWebTech.local


Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Linksys LNE100TX Fast Ethernet
Adapter(LNE100TX v4)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-41-E6-32-AA
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2


Ethernet adapter Server Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0E-0C-3E-A7-FB
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.124
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.124
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

So why does everything work fine now? What do I need to do to go to a one
Nic config without screwing everything up again? Should I back away and
leave well enough alone and try to connect the iphones as is??

"SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" wrote:

in a two NIC setup the external NICs subnet normally doesn't matter. It is
only the internal subnet that is required to be other than that used by
'commodity routers'.

"Larry Struckmeyer [SBS-MVP]" <lstruckmeyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
message news:ulyeqyqaJHA.4052@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Steve is right... you need to get your ip and dhcp straightened out.
>
> As a rule, you should see every nic in your lan pointed to the internal
> nic of the SBS for DNS. Secondly, the external nic should be on a > subnet
> not commonly used by home based routers, meaning that 192.168.0.x and
> 192.168.1.x are not good choices. (only relevant if you choose to > allow
> VPN direct to the server).
>
> Run the change server IP wizard to move it to 192.168.xx.2, (you can > move
> it back to .16 if you wish).
>
> If desired, move the external nic and the LAN side of the router, but > not
> necessary for this exercise.
>
> Then run the CEICW and verify that the workstations can get an ip in > the
> same range as the server internal nic.
>
> Once that works, than if you can ping the server from the workstations > by
> ip and by name, you should be good to go.
>
> If none of this fixes it, give us a new config and look at the > properties
> of the DHCP server and make sure your switch is working. You should be
> able to do that by putting the workstation on static in the same range > and
> ping server ip should then be successful.
>
> -- > Larry
> Please post the resolution to your
> issue so that others may benefit.
>
>
> "SteveB" <newsgroup@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:%23DaCQmqaJHA.1704@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> In your first post you mentioned changing the server IP address >> several
>> times. Did you use the Change IP wizard to do this? You certainly need >> to
>> get DHCP running properly on the SBS so that clients can receive a >> valid
>> IP address.
>>
>> "PWT24" <PWT24@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:E05AF564-68B4-4563-A917-F77FB92751E3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Thanks Larry. I would like to fix what I have then go to one nic >>> then
>>> worry
>>> about the phones.
>>>
>>> Here are the results from the server;
>>>
>>>
>>> Windows IP Configuration
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : myservername
>>>
>>> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : mydomainname.local
>>>
>>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
>>>
>>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
>>>
>>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
>>>
>>> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : mydomainname.local
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ethernet adapter Server Local Area Connection:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
>>>
>>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network
>>> Connection
>>>
>>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0E-0C-3E-A7-FB
>>>
>>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
>>>
>>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.124
>>>
>>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>>>
>>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>>>
>>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
>>>
>>> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.124
>>>
>>> NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
>>>
>>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Linksys LNE100TX Fast Ethernet
>>> Adapter(LNE100TX v4)
>>>
>>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-41-E6-32-AA
>>>
>>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
>>>
>>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
>>>
>>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>>>
>>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
>>>
>>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Here are the results from a workstation;
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Windows IP Configuration
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : username
>>>
>>> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : mydomainname.local
>>>
>>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
>>>
>>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>>>
>>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
>>>
>>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE >>> Network
>>> Connection
>>>
>>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-20-56-0E-D1
>>>
>>> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
>>>
>>> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>>>
>>> Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.50.174
>>>
>>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
>>>
>>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Larry Struckmeyer [SBS-MVP]" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Seems we should first fix what you have, than move to one nic if you
>>>> want,
>>>> or fix the iphone with one or two nics your call.
>>>>
>>>> To work on the present issue, please post the unedited results of:
>>>>
>>>> ipconfig /all > c:\iptest.txt
>>>>
>>>> from the server and an affected workstation.
>>>>
>>>> -- >>>> Larry
>>>> Please post the resolution to your
>>>> issue so that others may benefit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "PWT24" <PWT24@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:3CD3AC08-98E2-4183-8FFE-A6983D0AC01C@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> > This is a Standard SBS2003 SP2, no ISA.
>>>> >
>>>> > Last night I tried to change my servers configuration from a 2 nic >>>> > to
>>>> > one.
>>>> > I thought this was an easy thing to do but every time I think that >>>> > it
>>>> > ends
>>>> > up
>>>> > proving me wrong. I disabled the second nic and tried to run the
>>>> > CEICW
>>>> > and
>>>> > it failed saying there was a DHCP scope issue so I changed the IP
>>>> > address
>>>> > of
>>>> > the server and then disabled the Nic and ran the CEICW. Changed >>>> > my
>>>> > server
>>>> > ip
>>>> > back to the original address and reran the CEICW again. Now it
>>>> > appeared
>>>> > to
>>>> > be good but all my clients were disconnected from the network. I
>>>> > tried to
>>>> > release and renew the addresses with no luck, so I then even tried >>>> > to
>>>> > assign
>>>> > statics and still no luck. The server connects to company web and
>>>> > the
>>>> > internet just fine but no clients can connect.
>>>> >
>>>> > Now I put everything back (so I thought) and I am in the same >>>> > boat.
>>>> > Still,
>>>> > the server connects to the internet just fine but no clients. I
>>>> > cannot
>>>> > ping
>>>> > the server from a client and I cannot renew the address because it
>>>> > states
>>>> > the
>>>> > client is unable to contact the DHCP server. Now I have tried to
>>>> > restart
>>>> > the
>>>> > DHCP service many times and still no luck.
>>>> >
>>>> > Any ideas on what I screwed up? Any ideas how I can just go to a >>>> > one
>>>> > nic
>>>> > configuration? It is a long story why I am doing this but the >>>> > bottom
>>>> > line
>>>> > is
>>>> > there seems to be no way to connect an iphone to my server so I
>>>> > thought
>>>> > maybe
>>>> > this 2 nic is the issue. I have spent about 35 hours trying to >>>> > get
>>>> > my
>>>> > iphone
>>>> > to connect so obviously I am reaching for anything at this point >>>> > and
>>>> > thought
>>>> > that might have something to do with it. Now I have bigger issues
>>>> > with no
>>>> > clients!!
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>



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