Re: SBS2008 install from my MS Action Pack

I agree with you, KJ also pinted this out, but all the times I spoke with
MAPs they told me I can just buy CALS to extend it, which ones? both times
they did not know and forwarded me to a pre-sales licensing specialist to
figure it out, it seems like they don't really know and reaourse to normal
linsing when not sure...

"Larry Struckmeyer [SBS-MVP]" wrote:

As I suspected, MS has not been exactly forth coming on the question:

http://blogs.technet.com/nking/archive/2008/12/03/maps-sbs-premium-does-it-differ-from-retail.aspx

This (seems to) make it clear that one can use the products as I
hypothesized. The only question would seem to be what to do if one needs
more licenses than those supplied by the AP.

I have bumped this question up the line as far as I can, but there has not
been an answer that addresses that specific issue. One may be forthcoming,
or it may not.

As pointed out in the above blog, one could download the trial and get 240
days our of it, with no licensing requirements.

--
Larry
Please post the resolution to your
issue so that others may benefit.


"Cliff Galiher" <cgaliher@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Larry,

They way I read his question is that he definitely does *not* have enough
licenses and wants to purchase more. So the question is, since he has SBS
standard (NOT premium, another win2k8 standard server, and SQL Server
standard, can he purchase SBS Premium CALs and be covered?

An additionally purchased SBS Premium CAL would cover access to SBS and
the additional Win2k8 server, but would it cover access to the separately
licensed SQL Server Std? My interpretation of the CAL documentation is
no, but thus the debate...

-Cliff


"Larry Struckmeyer [SBS-MVP]" <lstruckmeyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
message news:eZBthSgaJHA.1528@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Hmmmm:

SBS Standard with X CALS allows X users to use the SBS Standard Server.

Server Standard with X CALS is immaterial because the SBS covers it in
the same domain.

SQL Server with X CALS allows X users to use the SQL, irrespective of
what server it is installed on.

It seems to me that the only question is were enough licenses granted by
the Action Pack for the number of users needed by the organization

--
Larry
Please post the resolution to your
issue so that others may benefit.


"Cliff Galiher" <cgaliher@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hmmm, I'm not sure that is true. Because he is running SBS standard
and adding a separately licensed SQL server, I don't think you can
'shortcut' with the CALs because technically he isn't running SBS
premium, even if the end result is the same software setup. MS can be
picky about licensing in this regard.

Personally I wouldn't run the risk of being out of compliance by
trusting information in this newsgroup. This is worth a quick call to
Microsoft directly.

-Cliff


"kj [SBS MVP]" <KevinJ.SBS@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Gonzalo Parra wrote:
But what about licensing?

We want to use SBS2008 internally for our company but we have more
than 5 users so I need to buy more cals, is I install it like that
(SBS 2008 Standard + Win2008 + SQL Standard) then should I buy
PremiumCALs? or Standard CALs + SQL CALs?

any help appreciated...

If the added users will acccess SQL, then they will need premium CALs.
Otherwise standard CALs will be fine.



"Larry Struckmeyer [SBS-MVP]" wrote:

Oh... right. I guessed that Dave was asking if his AP included
"Premium" so that he could install a second server with or without
SQL. As you point out, if the SQL in the AP is SQL Standard, it
doesn't matter. And, what the Premium part gives you is a second
Server license and a License for SQL, which is included in the AP,
so imo AP gives you either the same or more than SBS 2008 Premium.

You nailed it with the distinction between SQL Standard (can be
installed on any appropriate server), and SQL Standard for Small
Business, which is the same thing with a different label and EULA,
restricting it to SBS servers or SBS (preferably) domain member or
SBS additional DC servers.

Next question will be if the SQL in the AP is *not* SQL Standard for
Small Business, could it be installed on / in both the SBS network
and on a stand alone server or member of a different network, either
Domain or Workgroup. That will depend on the number of
licenses/installs granted by the AP license.

-Larry

"Les Connor" <les.connor@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Right, but depending on the SQL that comes with AP (if it's the SBS
specific SQL), I believe it checks to see that it's installing on a
member server in the SBS 2008 network.

If the AP version of SQL isn't the SBS SQL, then it's a non-issue
I'd think.

--
Les Connor [SBS-MVP]


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"Larry Struckmeyer [SBS-MVP]" <lstruckmeyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
in message news:%230E5PvnRJHA.5348@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
There is no management relationship between the SBS 2008
installation and other servers on your LAN. You can add as many
as you have licenses for, and add them to the domain and the RWW
landing page manually.

-Larry

"Les Connor" <les.connor@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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That I don't know; it might be a question for the MAPS folks.

However, I'd expect you should be able to install WS 2008 standard
(either 32 or 64) on another box, and then SQL on that. You need
the second server OS for SQL to run on.



--
Les Connor [SBS-MVP]


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"Dave Thursby" <thursby_david@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Les, the Microsft Action pack here in the UK doesn't come with
the Premium version but it does come with SBS2008 Standard and
includes an SQL DVD. We needed to know if you install SBS2K8
standard, is it just a case of installing SQL 2K8 on another box?

gary


"Les Connor" <les.connor@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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You should be using SBS Premium, not SBS Standard.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc794697.aspx


http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc816563.aspx


--
Les Connor [SBS-MVP]


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"Gary D" <gary@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I have installed SBS2008 Standard on my 1st hardware platform.
I am now ready to install SQL2008 on our 2nd platform. Does
anybody know which server 2008 standard I need to use for the
SQL2008 to sit on ?

--
/kj




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